<div dir="ltr">Protools offers these pan centre options :<div><br></div><div>-2.5dB, -3dB, -4.5dB and -6dB </div><div><br></div><div>-2.5 was their original value, possibly copied from Neve</div><div>-3dB for constant power</div><div>-6dB for constant gain</div><div>-4.5dB for compromise between constant power and constant gain, also used on SSL mixers.</div><div><br></div><div>I think this proves that whatever law one chooses, it won't keep everyone happy. There might be some mileage in taking the Serge type equal power circuit, but making the pan CV attenuation adjustable after the lin-log converter - that might allow the law to be smoothly varied (never tried it - I could be talking bo££ocks).</div><div><br></div><div>I've never heard of any console or DAW pan EQing the sound to simulate greater distance. </div><div><br></div><div>One of the aims of the Buchla Lopass gate was that it should have "the capability of simulating the spectral and amplitude changes that accompany a receding sound source", so panning using something similar might be interesting. Amount of reverberation can have some impact on the impression of distance too.</div><div><br></div><div>Steve</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 08:23, Mattias Rickardsson <<a href="mailto:mr@analogue.org">mr@analogue.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Tom,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Den mån 30 nov. 2020 01:12 Tom Wiltshire <<a href="mailto:tom@electricdruid.net" target="_blank">tom@electricdruid.net</a>> skrev:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">...<br>Neither sounds “even”. The ideal is something that gives a sound that seems to rotate around you with you at the centre, not moving closer or further away. The exact listening set-up obviously will affect how that illusion is to be created, but the aim is pretty clear.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">To complicate things even more, the "ideal" control curve is also frequency dependent, since higher frequencies are attenuated more when bending around your head. A certain pan solution with only plain VCAs will never sound exactly "right" (sic) for most sounds.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(Do professional panning products (mixing consoles, DAWs, etc) EQ the left/right signals differently when off-center, or is everyone still using pure level controls?)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Once again it seems like the lowpass gate is the perfect module for the job! 8-)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">/mr</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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