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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=035243917-09112020><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Let me just put in a plug here for the new-style PCB-mount
16mm Alpha pots. These have solder tabs which are 0.1" closer to the body
than the older ones, and they have much beefier 3/8" shanks (the same as 1/4"
jacks) and appear to be made out of a higher-quality metal. I buy mine
from Small Bear, and I have been very very happy with them -- here is the
URL:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial><A
href="http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcommerce.com/alpha-single-gang-16mm-pc-mount-6-mm-shaft/">http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcommerce.com/alpha-single-gang-16mm-pc-mount-6-mm-shaft/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=035243917-09112020><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>These pots are exactly the same height as the Taiway PCB-mount
mini-toggle switches that I also buy from Small Bear; for example, the SPDT
On-On ones here:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial><A
href="http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcommerce.com/spdt-on-on-pc-mount/">http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcommerce.com/spdt-on-on-pc-mount/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=035243917-09112020><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Small Bear also stocks (at my request) 1/4 switching
PCB-mount Switchcraft jacks, but these are not the same height as the pots
and switches, so they require a separate PCB at a different
height:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial><A
href="http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcommerce.com/1-4-in-mono-n-c-switch-enclosed-pc-mount-switchcraft-112apcx/">http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcommerce.com/1-4-in-mono-n-c-switch-enclosed-pc-mount-switchcraft-112apcx/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=035243917-09112020><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>With these and some layout art, you can make a very nice panel
PCB with very little wiring.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Synth-diy
[mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>john
slee<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 09, 2020 1:29 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Synth-diy@synth-diy.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sdiy] My new Moog 960 sequencer
clone module project.. slowly but surely ..<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=auto>Like yourself and David I also wondered about a panel PCB, being
thoroughly allergic to wiring. But sometimes finding parts that are both what
you want *and* close enough to each other in height... can be difficult</DIV>
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<DIV dir=auto>Regardless, it is a really lovely build, as Jean-Pierre’s builds
always seem to be, and I particularly like that much or all of the logic stuff
has been wrapped up into firmware.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=auto>John</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr class=gmail_attr>On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 20:17, Roman Sowa <<A
href="mailto:modular@go2.pl">modular@go2.pl</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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class=gmail_quote>One thing I hated the most while refurbishing 960 was the
wiring. There <BR>are places where several wires, maybe 5 or 6 are soldered in
1cm2 area <BR>with not a milimeter of spare wire to pull. I mean it's one of
the <BR>earliest examples of non-repairable thing so popular now in smartphone
<BR>industry. You could take it all apart like panel, all PCBs, and all the
<BR>controls alone would still hold together in grid, so many wires.<BR>And it
looks like you're going the same path, so... good luck.<BR>As it was said
already, maybe it's good time to consider making panel <BR>PCB to avoid wiring
hell, and move this 50-year old design slightly <BR>ahead by merely 15
years.<BR><BR>Don't get me wrong, I like what you do, enjoy your pictures
every time, <BR>and I'm impressed by how you still make this thing while the
rest of the <BR>world seems to waste time on pointless
wars.<BR><BR>Roman<BR><BR><BR>W dniu 2020-11-09 o 00:30, Jean-Pierre
Desrochers pisze:<BR>><BR>> Hi all,<BR>><BR>> Just to show you
where I’m going so far in my Moog 960 sequencer clone <BR>>
project..<BR>><BR>> I’m happy with the actual (not finished yet)
results..<BR>><BR>> Here <<A
href="http://www.arcenson.com/public/Moog_960_clone/" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>http://www.arcenson.com/public/Moog_960_clone/</A>> is the
link to <BR>> some pictures:<BR>><BR>> The first 2 pictures show the
front panel made out from<BR>><BR>> a thin 5 mils PCB with no copper.
Spray glued to the metal plate then <BR>> all punched.<BR>><BR>> The
last picture shows an empty IC socket.. That’s the PIC micro who <BR>> will
actually<BR>><BR>> do all the original Flip-Flop circuitry
jobs..<BR>><BR>> I’m building two of these !<BR>><BR>> I LOVE IT
!!!!!<BR>><BR>> JP<BR>><BR>><BR>>
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