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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can someone change this post title ??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s getting confusing from the beginning post..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ColinMuirDorward [mailto:colindorward@gmail.com] <br><b>Envoyé :</b> 9 novembre 2020 17:43<br><b>À :</b> info synthcube.com<br><b>Cc :</b> David G Dixon; Dave Brown; jpdesroc@oricom.ca; tom@electricdruid.net; john slee; Synth-diy@synth-diy.org<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [sdiy] My new Moog 960 sequencer clone module project.. slowly but surely ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>One possible solution I have not tried yet is to make a custom footprint for one of these 11mm (or thereabouts) rise toggle switches that carves out holes where some of the plastic body protrudes below the box. In some cases it could be enough to reduce the rise to close to 10mm.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As for the subminiature toggles, they seem to work well in a 10mm rise environment. The collar is long enough that the washers and fixings can make up the gap.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 1:19 PM info <a href="http://synthcube.com">synthcube.com</a> <<a href="mailto:info@synthcube.com">info@synthcube.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Papyrus'>Switches are the main issue here--- pots and jacks work well together, but most of the ‘standard’ DIY switches don’t seem to work from a height standpoint--- neither the mini toggles, nor the submini toggles—and rotaries- fuhgeddaboudit </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Papyrus'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> ColinMuirDorward <<a href="mailto:colindorward@gmail.com" target="_blank">colindorward@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 9, 2020 5:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> David G Dixon <<a href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca" target="_blank">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Dave Brown <<a href="mailto:davebr@modularsynthesis.com" target="_blank">davebr@modularsynthesis.com</a>>; info <a href="http://synthcube.com" target="_blank">synthcube.com</a> <<a href="mailto:info@synthcube.com" target="_blank">info@synthcube.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:jpdesroc@oricom.ca" target="_blank">jpdesroc@oricom.ca</a>; <a href="mailto:tom@electricdruid.net" target="_blank">tom@electricdruid.net</a>; john slee <<a href="mailto:indigoid@oldcorollas.org" target="_blank">indigoid@oldcorollas.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] My new Moog 960 sequencer clone module project.. slowly but surely ..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Is anyone using Song Huei <a href="http://www.song-huei.com/exec/product.php?mod=show&cid=58&pid=R1212N-MetalShaft&lg=E" target="_blank">R1212N-M</a>?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Vertical mount potentiometer, 10mm rise, mechanical mounting points, A, B, C, W tapers available, rated for 15000 cycles.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>10mm rise puts them in the same family as the usual PCB-mount eurorack minijacks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>The missing link for me is a nice group of switches to choose from. I'm using more shallow (8mm rise/) subminiature SPST toggles right now, which fit well, but they are not really good quality feeling.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Colin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 12:49 PM David G Dixon <<a href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca" target="_blank">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204)'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>That's a good idea if you have the panel at hand. Sometimes, I am making PCBs for a client and the actual panel is in a different country.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>For the pots I use, the solder tabs tend to bend slightly as needed to adjust to the correct spacing. In any case, I lay out all my panels and my PCBs on a strict 0.1" spacing grid, so things generally slip into their respective holes with ease. The most unforgiving parts are switches with two or more rows of tabs, such as DPDT switches. These must be aligned correctly.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dave Brown [mailto:<a href="mailto:davebr@modularsynthesis.com" target="_blank">davebr@modularsynthesis.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 09, 2020 12:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'David G Dixon'; 'info <a href="http://synthcube.com" target="_blank">synthcube.com</a>'; <a href="mailto:jpdesroc@oricom.ca" target="_blank">jpdesroc@oricom.ca</a>; <a href="mailto:tom@electricdruid.net" target="_blank">tom@electricdruid.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'john slee'; '<a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [sdiy] My new Moog 960 sequencer clone module project.. slowly but surely ..</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black;background:#FFECB3'>[</span><strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black;background:#FFECB3'>CAUTION:</span></strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black;background:#FFECB3'> Non-UBC Email]</span><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I do this for all panel components – pots, jacks, switches, and LEDs. I’ll tack solder just one lead so I can get the panel on and everything aligned. Typically the pots aren’t quite at the right height and this puts stress on the phenolic which can crack. Once the panel is on I reflow the jacks, pots, and switches. Sometimes I can hear a “pop” as the pot lead relaxes and it adjusts to the correct height. I do the LEDs as you described.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Someone once sent me a Buchla 248 with all the switches soldered on with no panel. Of course none of them lined up and it is hard to remove the solder completely so you can realign. I ended up having to redrill all 35 switch holes oversize and file some to fit.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><br>Dave</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor blue'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Synth-diy [mailto:<a href="mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David G Dixon<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 09, 2020 11:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'info <a href="http://synthcube.com" target="_blank">synthcube.com</a>'; <a href="mailto:jpdesroc@oricom.ca" target="_blank">jpdesroc@oricom.ca</a>; <a href="mailto:tom@electricdruid.net" target="_blank">tom@electricdruid.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'john slee'; '<a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] My new Moog 960 sequencer clone module project.. slowly but surely ..</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>LEDs can also be a challenge to solder into panel PCBs as they might not be at the correct height for poking through the panel. The best way to install LEDs is to first install all of the other components, then stuff the LED leads into the PCB loosely, then actually attach the panel (with at least a few nuts) and push the LEDs into their panel holes while the panel sits upsidedown on the bench. In this way, all the LEDs are at the correct height. I have also made LED jigs from scraps of PCB material (of which I have many pounds!) that bridge two adjacent components.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>_______________________________________________<br>Synth-diy mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br>Selling or trading? 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