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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Papyrus">Even with the units mess, the evolution of a family of similar-height parts that, together, make for reasonable panel pcbs for 5U pcb designs is very exciting. Pete Hartman did the 5U panel
pcb for the Klee Sequencer in MOTM and it really simplifies the DIY construction, unless you’re hell bent on panel wiring.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Synth-diy <synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean-Pierre Desrochers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 9, 2020 1:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tom@electricdruid.net; 'David G Dixon' <dixon@mail.ubc.ca><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'john slee' <indigoid@oldcorollas.org>; 'Synth-diy@synth-diy.org' <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] My new Moog 960 sequencer clone module project.. slowly but surely ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Agree !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Synth-diy [<a href="mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org">mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org</a>]
<b>De la part de</b> Tom Wiltshire<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> 9 novembre 2020 13:15<br>
<b>À :</b> David G Dixon<br>
<b>Cc :</b> john slee; <a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [sdiy] My new Moog 960 sequencer clone module project.. slowly but surely ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">Hang on…3/8” bushing, 1/2” nut, and…6mm shaft?!?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">Honestly, the electronics world is such a mess with units.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">==================<br>
Electric Druid<br>
Synth & Stompbox DIY<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">On 9 Nov 2020, at 17:48, David G Dixon <<a href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">Let me just put in a plug here for the new-style PCB-mount 16mm Alpha pots. These have solder tabs which are 0.1" closer to the body than the older ones,
and they have much beefier 3/8" shanks (the same as 1/4" jacks) and appear to be made out of a higher-quality metal. I buy mine from Small Bear, and I have been very very happy with them -- here is the URL:</span><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"><a href="http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcommerce.com/alpha-single-gang-16mm-pc-mount-6-mm-shaft/">http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcommerce.com/alpha-single-gang-16mm-pc-mount-6-mm-shaft/</a></span><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">These pots are exactly the same height as the Taiway PCB-mount mini-toggle switches that I also buy from Small Bear; for example, the SPDT On-On ones
here:</span><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">Small Bear also stocks (at my request) 1/4 switching PCB-mount Switchcraft jacks, but these are not the same height as the pots and switches, so they
require a separate PCB at a different height:</span><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">With these and some layout art, you can make a very nice panel PCB with very little wiring.</span><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>john slee<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 09, 2020 1:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] My new Moog 960 sequencer clone module project.. slowly but surely ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">Like yourself and David I also wondered about a panel PCB, being thoroughly allergic to wiring. But sometimes finding parts that are both what you want *and* close enough to each other in height... can be difficult<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">Regardless, it is a really lovely build, as Jean-Pierre’s builds always seem to be, and I particularly like that much or all of the logic stuff has been wrapped up into firmware.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 20:17, Roman Sowa <<a href="mailto:modular@go2.pl">modular@go2.pl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">One thing I hated the most while refurbishing 960 was the wiring. There
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are places where several wires, maybe 5 or 6 are soldered in 1cm2 area <br>
with not a milimeter of spare wire to pull. I mean it's one of the <br>
earliest examples of non-repairable thing so popular now in smartphone <br>
industry. You could take it all apart like panel, all PCBs, and all the <br>
controls alone would still hold together in grid, so many wires.<br>
And it looks like you're going the same path, so... good luck.<br>
As it was said already, maybe it's good time to consider making panel <br>
PCB to avoid wiring hell, and move this 50-year old design slightly <br>
ahead by merely 15 years.<br>
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Don't get me wrong, I like what you do, enjoy your pictures every time, <br>
and I'm impressed by how you still make this thing while the rest of the <br>
world seems to waste time on pointless wars.<br>
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Roman<br>
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W dniu 2020-11-09 o 00:30, Jean-Pierre Desrochers pisze:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Just to show you where I’m going so far in my Moog 960 sequencer clone <br>
> project..<br>
><br>
> I’m happy with the actual (not finished yet) results..<br>
><br>
> Here <<a href="http://www.arcenson.com/public/Moog_960_clone/" target="_blank">http://www.arcenson.com/public/Moog_960_clone/</a>> is the link to
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> some pictures:<br>
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> The first 2 pictures show the front panel made out from<br>
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> a thin 5 mils PCB with no copper. Spray glued to the metal plate then <br>
> all punched.<br>
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> The last picture shows an empty IC socket.. That’s the PIC micro who <br>
> will actually<br>
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> do all the original Flip-Flop circuitry jobs..<br>
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> I’m building two of these !<br>
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> I LOVE IT !!!!!<br>
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> JP<br>
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