<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Amazing! But I can’t even find that chip on Chinese distributor sites. So probably only available locally?<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ben</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 14 Oct 2020, at 14:20, Ullrich Peter <<a href="mailto:Peter.Ullrich@kapsch.net" class="">Peter.Ullrich@kapsch.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Hi Ben!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Thanks – very interesting.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">I didn’t mean the counterfeit chips but chips based on an AVR design but improved and sold under their own name and Logo (chip name is LGT8F328P).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="https://github.com/RalphBacon/LGT8F328P-Arduino-Clone-Chip-ATMega328P" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://github.com/RalphBacon/LGT8F328P-Arduino-Clone-Chip-ATMega328P</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Ciao<br class="">Peter<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Von:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ben Stuyts <<a href="mailto:ben@stuyts.nl" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ben@stuyts.nl</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Gesendet:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 14. Oktober 2020 12:14<br class=""><b class="">An:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ullrich Peter <<a href="mailto:Peter.Ullrich@kapsch.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Peter.Ullrich@kapsch.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ingo Debus <<a href="mailto:igg.debus@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">igg.debus@gmail.com</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Betreff:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [sdiy] 4-bit encoder?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 14 Oct 2020, at 07:38, Ullrich Peter <<a href="mailto:Peter.Ullrich@kapsch.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Peter.Ullrich@kapsch.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Menlo-Regular, serif;" class="">[And yes there are also AVR clones - some faster commands and much cheaper…]</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sometimes these clones look like original ones (with the Atmel logo etc), but do not conform to the original specs. A few weeks ago I saw this video about one that didn’t meet it’s standby current spec. Quite interesting, including a decapping and x-ray of the clone chip:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Do0rEzcKYzGw&data=02%7C01%7CPeter.Ullrich%40kapsch.net%7C878d0b6a8ed6486ef29808d87029ecba%7C5f9ce5277e3e4e83a8a4b6c848f85ab5%7C1%7C0%7C637382672695981929&sdata=eZZo8i0Fgzt6bYdYef0Lqly2vGug1R5pAAACwTG3PbA%3D&reserved=0" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0rEzcKYzGw</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Ben<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 9px;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged and confidential and is for the exclusive use of the addressee. 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