<div dir="auto">FYI I asked at SSI, and Dan Parks said they are working on some kind of breakout adapter, but they are still six weeks out. I'm not sure what they are planning. Could be something like Pete's design, or maybe a "passive" adapter?<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">C</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 4:20 PM Pete Hartman, <<a href="mailto:pete.hartman@gmail.com">pete.hartman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div><div dir="auto">Me either. That's why I want something a fab house can assemble. :). I can solder the legs in all day long....</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 6:12 PM Benjamin Tremblay via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">OMG now I know I’m really old. <div>That’s amazing and I would not dare to try to assemble that. <br><br><div dir="ltr">Benjamin Tremblay</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:11 PM, James Coplin <<a href="mailto:james@ticalun.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">james@ticalun.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Yup. Id buy those with the wider format.<br><br></div><br><br><div dir="auto">James</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 19, 2020, at 2:45 PM, David G Dixon <<a href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><br><br><div dir="ltr" align="left"><br><br> <span><font size="2" face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,255)">DItto -- what Oren said. Make the pins 0.6" apart. I'd buy that.</font></span><br><br></div><br><br><br> <br><br><div dir="ltr" lang="en-us" align="left"> <br><br> <hr> <br><br> <font size="2" face="Tahoma" style="font-family:Tahoma;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="font-family:Tahoma">From:</b> Synth-diy [mailto:<a href="mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org" style="font-family:Tahoma" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org</a>] <b style="font-family:Tahoma">On Behalf Of </b>Oren Leavitt<br><b style="font-family:Tahoma">Sent:</b> Saturday, September 19, 2020 11:24 AM<br><b style="font-family:Tahoma">To:</b> <a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" style="font-family:Tahoma" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><b style="font-family:Tahoma">Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] SSI2130<br></font><br><br> <br><br><br></div> <br><br><div></div> <br><br><p>Looks nice!</p> <br><br><p>Why not just go with a 0.6 inch wide DIP format? It'll fit a standard 0.6 wide DIP socket and you'll have a little more wiggle room.</p> <br><br><p>It's a VCOduino!</p> <br><br><p>- Oren<br></p> <br><br><div><br><br> On 9/19/20 12:40 PM, Pete Hartman wrote:<br><br> <br><br><br></div> <br><br><blockquote type="cite"> <br><br> <div dir="ltr"> <br><br> <div dir="ltr"><br><br> I was inspired last night to take a crack at the idea of a breakout that could have the chip pre-soldered. I don't normally do a lot of work with finer pitch SMD so I found I had to use fairly fine traces to route to the pins with the chip rotated (which seemed to make the most sense, since going to a DIP form factor). Necking in KiCad is not something I've mastered and I didn't spend a lot of time when I found it wasn't working the way I thought the descriptions online said it should. PS: not looking for a debate about CAD packages ;). <br><br> <div><br><br> <br><br><br> </div> <br><br> <div><br><br> I'm curious if any of the more experienced would have any opinions they'd care to offer? Full disclosure: the intent is for this to be sold as a DIY tool, so if providing advice for what might become a low volume commercial product is a concern, by all means, don't feel like you are obligated to comment.<br><br> </div> <br><br> <div><br><br> <br><br><br> </div> <br><br> <div><br><br> First the images. I'm also sending pictures to the list for the first time, so if for some reason this doesn't work, I can always throw links to my google drive up pretty quickly.<br><br> <br><br><br> <br> <br><br> <div><br><br> <img alt="Screen Shot 2020-09-19 at Sep 19 12.05.02PM.png" width="236" height="562"> <br><br> <img alt="Screen Shot 2020-09-19 at Sep 19 12.06.12PM.png" width="249" height="562"><br><br> </div> <br><br> <div><br><br> <br><br><br> </div> <br><br> <div><br><br> I liked the idea of having the regulator(s) on board, so I dug around to find a couple that seemed likely. I did find that -V regulators were significantly more expensive (Q100 of both of these are under $0.30, Q10, and I didn't look for Q100, of even a pretty basic - regulator was on the order of $3.00). Since the chips tolerates up to -18V I decided to forego a regulator on the negative rail.<br><br> </div> <br><br> <div><br><br> <br><br><br> </div> <br><br> <div><br><br> The V+ equivalent pin feeds the TLV1117-50, and that 5V feeds the MCP1700-25 as well as the actual V+ pin on the chip. I figured someone might want to use their own different 2.5V reference so I put a normally closed set of jumper pads that could be cut if preferred (like the USB power on a teensy, for example). This also allows you to take the 2.5V reference *off* the pin if you wanted to use it for expo scaling, or through zero, etc. Sitting here this morning I am thinking it might be a good idea to provide an extra pin at the top edge so the 5V reference could be treated similarly. I don't think I could do exactly the same thing because there has to be some way for the higher voltage to get onto the breakout.<br><br> <br><br><br> <br>All the caps are 0603, which is about as small as I'd want to hand solder; although I do not intend to hand solder it myself, I figured leaving the option open even if just for prototyping seemed like a good idea. Same idea behind using "handsolder" footprints for the regulator & reference.<br><br> <br><br><br> <br>It's half an inch between the rows of pins and .7" wide by 1.7" long total.<br><br> </div><br><br> <br>Thoughts?<br><br> <br><br><br> <br>Thanks!<br><br> </div> <br><br> <div><br><br> <br>Pete<br><br> </div><br><br> </div><br><br> </div><br><br> <br> <br><br> <fieldset></fieldset> <br><br> <pre style="font-family:monospace">_______________________________________________<br><br>Synth-diy mailing list<br><br><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" style="font-family:monospace" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><br><a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" style="font-family:monospace" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br><br></pre><br><br></blockquote> <br><br><pre style="font-family:monospace"> <hr style="font-family:monospace"><br>Synth-diy mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" style="font-family:monospace" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" style="font-family:monospace" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Synth-diy mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br><br>Synth-diy mailing list<br><br><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><br><a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br><br></blockquote></div></div>
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