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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.03.2020 um 23:43 schrieb Lena
      Kolb:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">I mean I already have a pretty good Keyboard, it's
        an Arturia Keylab Essential 61 Key. Its has some faders and
        encoders. As I'm doing quite a bit of mixing too, a midi
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    I wouldn't go that far, calling it that *bites tongue* (an Artirua
    keylab I once tested had rather wobbly keys and a pungent smell, but
    I know I care more than others about that, heh)<br>
    Not that the ones I listed earlier were better, other than the
    Roland one, maybe.<br>
    Was some examples just in case.<br>
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      <div dir="auto">with motor faders and some additional control
        would come in quite handy. There's stuff like the Presonus
        Faderport or the Icon Platform X, or if you want to go High End
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    Or, lower end, Behringer still has you covered<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.thomann.de/intl/behringer_x_touch_compact.htm">https://www.thomann.de/intl/behringer_x_touch_compact.htm</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.thomann.de/intl/behringer_x_touch.htm">https://www.thomann.de/intl/behringer_x_touch.htm</a><br>
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      <div dir="auto">theres the Avid Artist Mix. That's something i
        would want to build. Do you guys have any Experience with this
        kind of stuff. And btw, my main DAWs are Cubase and Pro Tools on
        Windows <br>
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    As for DIYing a MIDI controller, there's this platform "MIDIbox NG"
    that has a readily available open firmware, and you can put
    different components together to your liking. Supports encoders,
    pots, apparently LED rings, too.<br>
    <br>
    I now read  Kylee Kennedy's message and would have to agree.<br>
    Even with a starting point like the MIDIbox stuff, this might be
    quite a huge detour from your synth DIY stuff.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    But anyway, <br>
    <br>
    Here are some people's projects based on that - does *not* include
    motorized faders<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=midibox+ng&t=ironbrowser&iax=videos&ia=videos">https://duckduckgo.com/?q=midibox+ng&t=ironbrowser&iax=videos&ia=videos</a><br>
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    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=midibox_ng">http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=midibox_ng</a><br>
    <br>
    A forum, looks somewhat active<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://midibox.org/forums/forum/46-midibox-ng/">http://midibox.org/forums/forum/46-midibox-ng/</a><br>
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    I've never tried any of that stuff.<br>
    <br>
    It is not a coincidence that most people use reotary encoders on
    those things, or rotary pots,<br>
    but not faders.<br>
    Drilling round holes into front panels is one thing. Getting slits
    in there for faders another. I guess that's a job for a CNC router.<br>
    The mechanical part is perhaps the one part that makes this all more
    expensive than just buying e.g. one of the Behringer things.<br>
    <br>
    - Steve<br>
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          schrieb am Fr., 13. März 2020, 19:03:<br>
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              Am 13.03.2020 um 14:19 schrieb Lena Kolb:<br>
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              <div dir="auto">Yeah, i have a midi keyboard. But midi is
                quite a good idea. I may take a look at a midi
                controller with faders. Like a mixer controller. Do you
                have some links for that <br>
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            Well, any sort of requirements? Price range?<br>
            I remember the Behringer BC...something, they had some with
            rotary encoders, and one with faders, but I believe they
            were motor faders and hence not very many.<br>
            I can't find something like that anymore right now, all I
            see is "DAW controllers" which are geared towards, well,
            controlling DAWs, and not so cheap either (for a Behringer
            product - probably because of motor faders, which are
            nice... but low in number):<br>
            <br>
            Ok, floating around used. Not faders but rotary encoders:<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/Behringer-BCR2000-mit-Zaquencer/283808528500"
              target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.ebay.de/itm/Behringer-BCR2000-mit-Zaquencer/283808528500</a><br>
            <br>
            There'd be enough space to put some printed out stickers for
            function names under/above each encoder.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Depending on how much you are attached to your MIDI keyboard
            (in case of swap, e.g. buy one, sell the old), or opposed to
            just getting another one:<br>
            There are a lot of MIDI keyboards with quite a number of
            faders and encoders and / or pots.<br>
            <br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://www.thomann.de/intl/m_audio_oxygen_49_mk4.htm"
              target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.thomann.de/intl/m_audio_oxygen_49_mk4.htm</a><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://www.thomann.de/intl/novation_launchkey_49_mk2_b_stock.htm"
              target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.thomann.de/intl/novation_launchkey_49_mk2_b_stock.htm</a><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://www.thomann.de/intl/roland_a_500_pro_b_stock.htm"
              target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.thomann.de/intl/roland_a_500_pro_b_stock.htm</a><br>
            <br>
            Super cheap if it's really only about the knobs, which are
            probably not great, but for experimenting...<br>
            (and the keys... eat space and are probably crap, but...
            since the "lotsa knobs controller box"es I knew aren't a
            thing anymore apparently...)<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://www.thomann.de/intl/miditech_i2control_37_black.htm"
              target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.thomann.de/intl/miditech_i2control_37_black.htm</a><br>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">ShedSynth <<a
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                    href="mailto:shedsynth@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                    rel="noreferrer">shedsynth@gmail.com</a>> schrieb
                  am Fr., 13. März 2020, 10:50:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hi Lena,</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>this is brilliant:
                          you’re getting every possible answer to your
                          original question.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Do you have access to
                          any sort of MIDI keyboard?</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>You might like to look
                          at this:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-an-Arduino-sound-synthesizer-with-MIDI/"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-an-Arduino-sound-synthesizer-with-MIDI/</a></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>That could be a good
                          intro to following a circuit, soldering,
                          working with Arduino and generally bodging
                          things together to make a noise.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>In fact I was inspired
                          this week by your original message to add MIDI
                          input to a module I built two years ago, and
                          the code from that instructable sounds quite
                          sweet.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>This is a safer MIDI
                          circuit, you don’t want to fry a borrowed
                          keyboard:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://arduino.stackexchange.com/questions/56279/how-do-i-properly-receive-midi-with-arduino-with-6n138"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://arduino.stackexchange.com/questions/56279/how-do-i-properly-receive-midi-with-arduino-with-6n138</a></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>If you don’t want to
                          build an amplifier you can connect to an audio
                          input like this:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://sensorium.github.io/Mozzi/learn/output/"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sensorium.github.io/Mozzi/learn/output/</a></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Al</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                          lang="EN-US"> Synth-diy <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org</a>>
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lena Kolb<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> 12 March 2020 22:00<br>
                          <b>To:</b> MTG <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:grant@musictechnologiesgroup.com"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">grant@musictechnologiesgroup.com</a>><br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>
                          DIY <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] Getting Started
                          with DIY Synths</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">I'm open to anything. But a
                          complete synth would be pretty sexy </p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">MTG <<a
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                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
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                            schrieb am Do., 12. März 2020, 20:20:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Did the OP mention
                            modular?  I don't remember seeing that.  It
                            might be <br>
                            more gratifying to start out with a simple
                            "complete" synth.<br>
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