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    <p>Great bang for the buck!<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/11/20 3:52 PM, Lena Kolb wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Can you recommend some specific kits which are as
        cheap as possible? I'm still a student, so I don't have a lot of
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Mi., 11. März 2020 um
          21:50 Uhr schrieb Pete Hartman <<a
            href="mailto:pete.hartman@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">pete.hartman@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">They are generally very small SMD, so I would
            say probably not.<br>
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            It would depend on your soldering experience.<br>
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            Ptee</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at
              2:31 PM Lena Kolb <<a
                href="mailto:lenakolb2204@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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              <div dir="auto">Are the Mutable Instruments Modules good
                for beginners. I've heard they are open source </div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Mikko Helin <<a
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                  schrieb am Mi., 11. März 2020, 19:49:<br>
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                      ms",sans-serif">Yes, it would be a good idea
                      to first first build a small rack with some
                      selected ready-built Eurorack modules (Doepfer,
                      Behringer etc.) and then start filling the empty
                      space with DIY modules. It might be useful also to
                      check things like Expert Sleepers Silent Way VST (<a
href="https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/silentway.html"
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                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/silentway.html</a>)
                      and find a compatible audio interface (ES-3/6, <a
href="https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/es3.html"
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                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/es3.html</a>).</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 11,
                      2020 at 4:03 PM Florian Anwander <<a
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                        <p>@all Lena answered directly to me, but not to
                          the list:</p>
                        <p>Hi Lena!<br>
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                        <p>Here are my suggestions: <br>
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                        <p>Start with Eurorack modular stuff. The
                          biggest problems for a beginner are not the
                          electronic things, but the mechanical stuff.<br>
                          Also you can rely on existing working parts
                          (housing, modules and/or the powersupply) and
                          add your diy modules then.</p>
                        <p>Start first with a kit that is delivered with
                          PCB and parts. Thonk should be a good place to
                          start. <a href="https://www.thonk.co.uk"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.thonk.co.uk</a><br>
                          In my beginnings nothing made me more proud
                          than a working device I soldered from a kit.<br>
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                        <p>Then you may continue with building a module
                          on a stripboard / veroboard / breadboard pcb
                          using a given schematic (potential sources for
                          schematics were already named on the list).
                          Software like VeeCad may help you to design
                          the pcb. Sourcing the parts,  developing the
                          layout on the stripboard and creating an own
                          panel will be the challenging tasks here.</p>
                        After that you may either develop your first own
                        circuit, or start modifying other circuits.<br>
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                        <p>Florian<br>
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                        <div>Am 11.03.20 um 13:15 schrieb Lena Kolb:<br>
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                          <div dir="auto">My Knowledge is mainly
                            musical, but I've soldered stuff a few
                            times. No smd soldering yet. </div>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Florian
                              Anwander <<a
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                              schrieb am Mo., 9. März 2020, 11:49:<br>
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                              what knowledge do you have about synths,
                              electronics, and/or soldering?<br>
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                              It is something different whether you are
                              musician "only" or whether you <br>
                              are skilled with soldering electronic kits
                              like guitar pedals.<br>
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                              Florian<br>
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