<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Adam,</div><div>TZ fm is more like what you get in a digital FM synth. <br></div><div>On a regular VCO, when the FM input goes to negative, what happens to the VCO frequency? I think it either stops, or simply bounces back to the positive domain. For this reason, you get some harsh harmonics (which can sound great). <br></div><div>A TZvco handles the incoming negative FM differently. It reverses the VCO's direction. Or, another way to think of it is that it flips the phase of the VCO. This gives that nice Chowning style FM that we know and love.</div><div>Someone else might chime in with a more accurate explanation... I could have butchered it.</div><div>Just waiting for alfa rpar to produce an economical TZvco chip, then we can all get familiar and know it by ear.</div><div>Colin<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 6:25 PM Adam Inglis <<a href="mailto:21pointy@tpg.com.au">21pointy@tpg.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><br></div><div>Thanks Colin</div><div>Someone in that thread says they would love a "through-zero version”.</div><div><br></div><div>Seems to be a lot of talk about TZ all over these types of forums - why? What’s the big deal? How are these different from the VCOs in my Roland, Korg and Sequential synths?</div><div><br></div><div>Sure I could google but I know I’d get better education here ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br></div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 5 Jan 2020, at 6:26 am, ColinMuirDorward <<a href="mailto:colindorward@gmail.com" target="_blank">colindorward@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Just a note to say thanks to everyone contributing to this conversation. I've applied lots of what I learned here to my design,
and I've got the PWM/pitch interaction down to what I think is an acceptable minimum. Anyways, it's nothing special, but I've started a <a href="https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=225670" target="_blank">build thread over at muffs</a>, for anyone who needs yet another low cost 3340 vco. I need several, so thought I may as well go public in case anyone else does, too. I'll be using JLCPCB assembly for all the resistors and caps, and the rest will be through hole at home. I have lots of as3340s, so can include with the PCB if anyone needs. 3340 is running on +10/-5, so the circuit should be at home in 12v or 15v setups. I'm in Yukon, Canada.</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Colin<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 12:39 PM David G Dixon <<a href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca" target="_blank">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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