<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I can imagine an ear training program, where you hear a note and have to play it back. If you miss, it lights red, if you are correct it lights blue....<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jun 19, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Nathan Trites <<a href="mailto:nathan@idmclassics.net">nathan@idmclassics.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Don is spot on about teachers having a number of methods at their disposal and using them when appropriate, and the issue of engineers _thinking_ their gizmo will help people has been proven over and over, but I think this also ignores the proper application of assistive technologies - which the keyboard is. <div><br></div><div>A light up keyboard on it's own is a novelty, and following keys to a song 1:1 probably isn't even a good way to build muscle memory, but there are definitely a ton of techniques where these tools could be used to actually reinforce learning. How about showing a blue G on the screen, light up a G key in blue a second later, eventually you might learn what the key is and can beat the timer. The next level might replace the blue G with the sound of a G note. The effectiveness of the hardware depends on how it's used in education, and it may not be appropriate for all learners. There's a good deal of neuroscience research on these topics. Kid's learning the "notes" to guitar hero songs so they can play by memory is a shallow application of this, I'd love to see software that gamifies music education with a reward system similar to video games. </div><div><br></div><div>Also highly recommend anyone that's interested in more effective education techniques to read about the Universal Design for Learning principles/guidelines:</div><div><a href="https://www.kurzweiledu.com/udl-three-principles-p4.html">https://www.kurzweiledu.com/udl-three-principles-p4.html</a><br></div><div><a href="http://udlguidelines.cast.org/">http://udlguidelines.cast.org/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nathan</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:53 PM Donald Tillman <<a href="mailto:don@till.com" target="_blank">don@till.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Phillip Gallo <<a href="mailto:philgallo@gmail.com" target="_blank">philgallo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br class="gmail-m_957227569352472026gmail-m_-440005228328693533Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Don, i agree with the philosophy of your "rant" (also the bag pipes as a practical case).</div><div>Isn't there a bit more, though ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>The pedagogical tradition includes "play along" - student plays with the teacher.</div><div>The illuminated key clavier idea would seem a close cousin to the "play along" with Mel Bay 45rpm record that came with my Kay flattop?</div><div>I can play "Down in the Valley" to this day!</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Every good teacher knows that, in the craft, you have a large number of approaches at your disposal; demonstrating for the student, critiquing their technique, explaining the theory, guiding the student to discover on their own, hitting them with a stick if they're doing it wrong, etc. And the best teachers know when to use each approach.</div><div><br></div><div>Sometimes a "brain dump", sometimes the Socratic Method.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, playing along with the student is an excellent teaching technique. And play-along records are a great tool because playing with other musicians is a different set of issues than playing by yourself, especially with regards to timing. A metronome, also, great tool.</div><div><br></div><div>But if you're building a gizmo to help teach an instrument... well, there's an enormous tendency to do exactly the wrong thing. An engineer will often abstract the situation into "problem + technology => solution" and end up building a device that performs the very function that the student most needs to do on their own.</div><div><br></div><div>That is the case for light up note keyboards, either in 1969, or today.</div><div><br></div><div> -- Don</div></div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Menlo;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">--<br>Donald Tillman, Palo Alto, California<br><a href="http://www.till.com" target="_blank">http://www.till.com</a></div>
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