<div dir="ltr">I think trace runs are the more relevant part of layout, rather than absolute positioning.<br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:39 AM Quincas Moreira <<a href="mailto:quincas@gmail.com">quincas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Dave, here's the image I have of the Layout<div><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/12I5AwggTgujKOEu-qFTio-IEbJMq1kAI/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/12I5AwggTgujKOEu-qFTio-IEbJMq1kAI/view?usp=sharing</a><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:30 AM Dave <<a href="mailto:dlmanley@sonic.net" target="_blank">dlmanley@sonic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Also DA4 could be coupling clock noise through the supply lines into DA2.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On October 23, 2018 8:15:35 AM PDT, Dave <<a href="mailto:dlmanley@sonic.net" target="_blank">dlmanley@sonic.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<pre class="m_-5660733809092956676m_6628349650663300398k9mail">Layout could be important too. The schematic is only part of the picture. <br><br>-Dave<br><br><br><br>On October 23, 2018 6:07:28 AM PDT, Vladimir Pantelic <<a href="mailto:vladoman@gmail.com" target="_blank">vladoman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #729fcf;padding-left:1ex">no output balance trimmer between out1 and out2 on this one<br><br>On 23.10.2018 14:46, Quincas Moreira wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"> Sorry Folks, please follow this link<br> <a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O5kKkaJZqom61W8WQKQCfm3gLF83goz0" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O5kKkaJZqom61W8WQKQCfm3gLF83goz0</a><br> <br> Sent from my iPhone<br> <br> On Oct 23, 2018, at 06:13, Tom Wiltshire <<a href="mailto:tom@electricdruid.net" target="_blank">tom@electricdruid.net</a><br> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tom@electricdruid.net" target="_blank">tom@electricdruid.net</a>>> wrote:<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> The list strips attachments. Can you post a link?<br><br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"> On 23 Oct 2018, at 08:30, Quincas Moreira <<a href="mailto:quincas@gmail.com" target="_blank">quincas@gmail.com</a><br> <mailto:<a href="mailto:quincas@gmail.com" target="_blank">quincas@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br><br> thanks folks. It’s a new<br> module, not yet released V3205 based. Strange that you don’t see<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>the<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"> pdf attachment, I’ll try again in the morning<br><br> Sent from my iPhone<br><br> On Oct 22, 2018, at 23:59, Pete Hartman <<a href="mailto:pete.hartman@gmail.com" target="_blank">pete.hartman@gmail.com</a><br> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pete.hartman@gmail.com" target="_blank">pete.hartman@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"> As others have said a lot depends on which BBD we're talking<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>about.<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"><br> Most of my BBD experience is with Blacet's Time Machine. It uses<br> the MN3005 which has balanced outputs, which can be trimmed to<br> minimize the clock bleed, and it also uses clock dependent<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>filtering<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"> and compansion to help reduce the noise further. I have also<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>played<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"> some with the Doepfer A-188-2 which uses a tapped BBD, and that<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>does<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"> *not* have balanced outputs, so the bleed is harder to tame.<br><br> I looked at the Erica site as well, and honestly, I can't tell<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>which<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"> one you're asking about either. Let us know/attach the schem, and<br> I'm sure someone will have suggestions :)<br><br> Pete<br><br><br><br> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:55 PM Quincas Moreira <<a href="mailto:quincas@gmail.com" target="_blank">quincas@gmail.com</a><br> <mailto:<a href="mailto:quincas@gmail.com" target="_blank">quincas@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br> Hey friends! I'm working in a review of the new Erica Synths BBD<br> module, and I'm getting massive bleed of the clock frequency<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>(though<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"> it looks sinusoidal rather than square)<br> Any tips on minimizing this bleed? Anytime the clock steps into<br> audible range it's super loud<br><br> Schematics included...<br><br> Thanks!!<br><br><br><br> -- <br> Quincas Moreira<br> Synth Diy Guy<br><hr><br> Synth-diy mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>><br> <a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br><hr><br> Synth-diy mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>><br> <a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br></blockquote><hr><br> Synth-diy mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>><br> <a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br></blockquote><br></blockquote> <br> <br><hr><br> Synth-diy mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br> <a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br> <br></blockquote><br><hr><br>Synth-diy mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br></blockquote><br><hr><br>Synth-diy mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br><br></pre></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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