<html><head></head><body dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="ApplePlainTextBody">Use several Cad/PCB type of tools.<br><br>I have the Entire Altium package for several years now. I also use Orcad CIS tools with PCB, Librarian etc (I have 3 seats with USB Dongles) I have several Mac hosted Schematic tools that I use on occasion but revert to PC centric tools for BGA as I have all of my BGA libs feted on Altium and Orcad.<br><br>I got Orcad/Allegro infused while at Motorola/Freescale as we were a Corp. account of Cadence.<br><br>I don’t care about price as about the ability to support designs my customers wish me to take over or projects where they insist on a pro tool chain that they use as well.<br><br>I don’t fit into the Hacker profile due to the constraints of my many years in design at a semiconductor as it’s minion.<br><br>Still , I say if it works for you, then have at it.<br><br>Unintuitive is a true issue, I would say that about software tools as well.<br><br>Our Audio tools at DSPConcepts help take the sting out of programming but not entirely.<br><br>I am sure someone will say “But you don’t supportive Mac” or some nonsense. When did Apple ever care about engineering tools on their own platform?<br><br>I started doing PCB with Red/Blue artwork and started to use PC’s when they supported Schematic capture and PCB layout.<br><br>Still, who cares as they joy is the building of the module and adding it to my rack of audio processing goods.<br><br>still, I like the mac as my main computer, but I share my desk with a PC for schematic and Audio Precision use.<br><br>just my 2 pfennigs…<br><br>Terry<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 29, 2018, at 2:45 AM, Oakley Sound <oakleysound@btinternet.com> wrote:<br><br>I use EDWinXP<br><br>http://www.edwinxp.com/<br><br>Like many CAD and DAW packages, it's mind bogglingly complex and does things that are totally unintuitive. However, after nearly 20 years of using it, and its predecessors, I can do what I want with minimal fuss.<br><br>Like DFS* it's almost always available for a sale price. But the amount of discount varies from month to month - in April it was really cheap for example. It is available in non-commercial, small business, and pro prices. There's a free demo available on the site to try but it only gives you 14 days to decide. Personally, it took me a lot longer than that to not get cross with it. But I paid for it so had to grit my teeth and get on with it.<br><br>The most annoying thing they've done recently though is to start to charge significantly for re-authorising if you have to reinstall it.<br><br>*DFS is a furniture shop in the UK that continually offers various products at sale prices. "Spring Sale now finished - welcome to our Summer Sale..."<br><br>Tony<br><br>www.oakleysound.com<br>_______________________________________________<br>Synth-diy mailing list<br>Synth-diy@synth-diy.org<br>http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy<br></blockquote><br></div></body></html>