<div dir="ltr">2164 VCAs accept supplies down to at least +/- 4 V, so it shouldn't be a problem. They do show roughly a doubling in THD compared to the +/- 15 V supply according to the SSI2164 data I've seen so far, but that shouldn't really be any problem in a pedal. :-D<div><br></div><div>The PWM switch solution *might* be a better solution (for several values of "better") considering you already have access to the digital control for switches but perhaps not the analog CVs for VCAs, but certainly feels like a more complex solution when coming from analog. Do it! ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>/mr</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 at 12:25, Roman Sowa <<a href="mailto:modular@go2.pl">modular@go2.pl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If you'd use 2164 or any other VCA, that's I think still simpler circuit <br>
that chopping switch with anti-alias and reconstruction filters. No need <br>
for DC/DC converting negative supply, use 4.5V for GND on VCA and AC <br>
couple the in/out signal. Control CV will be then between 4.5 and, say <br>
7V, so easy to achieve with some biasing.<br>
<br>
Roman<br>
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W dniu 2018-06-13 o 12:03, Tom Wiltshire pisze:<br>
> Generally speaking I’d be of exactly the same mind, David, but in this case this is a pedal project, so it’s a 9V single supply, which is pretty borderline for a 2164. Or pretty much any other obvious VCA chip except the LM13700, to be honest. The LM13700 is out because the chances of it *not* thumping with a choppy square wave modulation signal like I’m using are going to be minimal. Happy to be proved wrong if anyone knows a way though.<br>
> <br>
> I could generate a bipolar supply I suppose, but then that requires another chip and makes things more complicated again.<br>
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>> On 13 Jun 2018, at 04:22, David G Dixon <<a href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca" target="_blank">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> This sounds like a job for (is it a bird, is it a plane) 2164!!!<br>
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>>> I've been working on and off on a "stutter pedal" design.<br>
>>> This is basically a severe volume-chopping tremolo effect.<br>
>>> I've experimented with using FETs to do the signal muting,<br>
>>> but wasn't happy with it. So I thought I'd try a PWM VCA,<br>
>>> since I'm controlling the mute signals from a micro<br>
>>> controller anyway - unlike the FET mute, I'd actually get<br>
>>> some control of the volume level.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The chip I decided upon was the DSG413LE:<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2311996.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2311996.pdf</a><br>
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>>> Since the PWM needs to be at a reasonable frequency, I'm<br>
>>> unlikely to have massive control over the gain (9-bit PWM at<br>
>>> 62.5KHz would give me -54dB attenuation before 'Off"). But<br>
>>> since the alternative was a FET that was basically "on" or<br>
>>> "off" this still represents an improvement!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Has anyone else done anything like this? Do you have any<br>
>>> experience to share or gotchas that I should avoid? How do<br>
>>> the DG-series chips compare with the old 4066 circuits that<br>
>>> I've seen this technique used with?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> Tom<br>
>>><br>
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