<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">This belief is why so few of us “purely” software folks find their way to this list, sadly <div><br></div><div>I hardly see why Serum (predominantly written by two people in their homes) wouldn’t be SDIY, yet many of the Eurorack builders would be </div><div><br></div><div>If you ported Serum to, say, ARM and put it in a box with some knobs on it, it would magically transform from “not a synthesizer” into a synthesizer?</div><div><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 29, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Quincas Moreira <<a href="mailto:quincas@gmail.com">quincas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Paula, if you water down the definition too much it becomes meaningless. 99% of people I know, when they think SDIY they think of hardware synths and modules, whether they are analog or digital. To me at least it makes sense to keep ITB and dedicated hardware somewhat separate. Call it Soft Synth DIY if you will :)<div>Just my 2 c</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paula@synth.net" target="_blank">paula@synth.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p>why?</p>
<p>if I write a softsynth, and put it in a VST that's not synth DIY? But if I write a softsynth and put it in a chip in a box that is synth DIY?</p>
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<div dir="ltr">Oh, I would leave soft synths out of it for clarity's sake...
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<div>Software running in a dedicated module or hardware synth, sure :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 AM, <span><<a href="mailto:paula@synth.net" target="_blank">paula@synth.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Fair points Tom.<br> <br> Though I'd disagree with the electronotes comment, it only covers analogue synthesis techniques.<br> <br> for me SDIY encompasses analogue, digital, hybrid and soft synths, as long as you made it yourself :)<br> <br> Paula
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">No need to pigeon hole, but if you were (say) writing a book on the<br> topic, you'd have to decide what you put in and what you leave out.<br> <br> I think the magazines and books give a pretty good idea of what was<br> going on through the decades. The Brabani books and R.A. Penfold and<br> R.M.Marston have quite a lot to answer for in my case.<br> In many ways, Bernie's Electronotes *is* the history of Synth-DIY<br> already! Ok, it's only a single source and a single editor, but it<br> follows the progress of the field over a long period of time and<br> covers pretty much everything sooner or later. I doubt there's a more<br> comprehensive overview.<br> <br> Tom<br> <br> ==================<br> Electric Druid<br> Synth & Stompbox DIY<br> ==================<br> <br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 29 May 2018, at 13:18, <a href="mailto:paula@synth.net" target="_blank">paula@synth.net</a> wrote:<br> <br> Why classify/pigeon hole "what" SDIY is?<br> The world seems obsessed with putting things in boxes, let's not do the same here please<br> <br> <br> On 2018-05-29 12:36, Rob Kam wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Unlike for the history of electronic music <a href="http://120years.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://120years.net/</a>, apparently<br> there's not much documentation specifically for the history of DIY<br> electronic music equipment. I have some questions, if I may.<br> How to define SDIY - it's not just exclusively synths, amateurs making<br> electronic music circuits as opposed to plugging together ready-made parts?<br> When did SDIY begin and how has it developed over the years? Especially<br> since the invention of semiconductors but before then should also be<br> included. What were the significant moments and who were the pioneers along<br> the way?<br> Bob Moog sold Theremin kits in the 1950s. Guitar pedals began development in<br> the 1960s. Before this there were guitar amplifiers with effects built in,<br> and earlier still people used magnetic tape. The PAiA FAQ states that the<br> 1970s were busy, the 1980s were quieter, (with the hobbyists being<br> distracted by PCs) and that interest picked up again in the 1990s. PAiA has<br> been producing synthesizer kits since 1972. Electronotes started in 1972.<br> Various magazine articles by authors such as Tim Orr, John Simonton, Don<br> Lancaster, Craig Anderton, etc. give some sort of indication. The earliest<br> DIY electronic music instrument books seem to be from the early to<br> mid-1970s.<br> How to distinguish what's SDIY from R&D? Obviously the pioneers and<br> inventors like Harald Bode and Kraftwerk had to DIY; does this get ignored?<br> Does it begin with the electro-magnetic Helmholtz resonator?<br> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> Synth-diy mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br> <a href="http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/l<wbr>istinfo/synth-diy</a></blockquote>
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