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color:#1F497D'>I stand corrected about 'envelope'. Thank you for pointing out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> navelludd@gmail.com
[mailto:navelludd@gmail.com] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Mattias Rickardsson<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 21:04<br>
<b>An:</b> Matthias Herrmann<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Synth DIY<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [sdiy] Question about Envelopes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I wouldn't say that the synthesizer "envelope"
comes from the mathematics term, <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envelope_(mathematics)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envelope_(mathematics)</a><br>
but rather from the physics/engineering term:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envelope_(waves)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envelope_(waves)</a><br>
<br>
PS: Scroll down to "Phase and group velocity" and see a nice
informative animation of something completely different! :-)<br>
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/mr<br>
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On 10 December 2017 at 19:13, Matthias Herrmann <<a
href="mailto:matthias.herrmann@fonik.de">matthias.herrmann@fonik.de</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Both "Einhüllende" und "Hüllkurve" are German words
coming from and used in mathematics. And indeed they are used for synthesizer
functions just as "envelope", which is coming from mathematics as
well.<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> So while we know where it comes from, we still don't know why - which was
the OT question. At some point someone must have coined the term
"envelope" based on his personal experience and history. A little bit
hard to find out, i guess.<br>
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> <br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Matthias<br>
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> <br>
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> <br>
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> Von: Synth-diy [mailto:<a href="mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org">synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org</a>]
Im Auftrag von Mattias Rickardsson<br>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 18:02<br>
> An: Synth DIY<br>
> Betreff: Re: [sdiy] Question about Envelopes<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> Den 30 nov. 2017 09:22 skrev "Michael Zacherl" <<a
href="mailto:sdiy-mz01@blauwurf.info">sdiy-mz01@blauwurf.info</a>>:<br>
><br>
><br>
> > On 30 Nov 2017, at 05:43, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker <<a
href="mailto:chromatest@azburners.org">chromatest@azburners.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > That wasn't good enough for her, and I don't have a better answer.<br>
><br>
> Looking at other languages the german translation of the noun would be
“Einhüllende” which is similar to the verb “einhüllen”.<br>
> Looking up that verb in the dictionary and cross-checking returns “to
enfold”, “to enwrap”, "to coat” and such, which I picture with what
happens when applying and ENV.<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> "Hüllkurve" is another German variant that can be found in
synthesizer nomenclature. The related Swedish word for "Hülle" is
"hölje", which would be quite a poetic wording - but in mathematics
the term seems to be the imported word "envelopp" instead.<br>
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> <br>
><br>
> If the word "envelope" doesn't feel strict enough for general
synth use, why not choose Moog's preferred term "contour"? I find it
both descriptive and elegant.<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> Anyway, all this envelope business can be seen as a kind of post
processing. ;-)<br>
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> <br>
><br>
> /mr<br>
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> <br>
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> Sent from my e-mail<br>
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