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<font face="Arial">That is the WHOLE POINT of the EuroSynth
Specification. To try and get some sense and control back in to it
before <font face="Arial">the whole EuroRack concept just dies a
self-generate deat<font face="Arial">h.<br>
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<font face="Arial">Many of the points you raised are covered
by the specification.</font> Some can't.<br>
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<font face="Arial">We specify M3 which is the norm now in
EuroRack although M2.5 was always the original 19" rack
option.<br>
<font face="Arial">You can't force metal manufacturers to
make only one form of rail and they certainly won't do it
for </font>the EuroRack or any other market. the 19"
specification refers to the height, width and other factors
but not the the depth of the slots or even that you have to
have threaded strips.<br>
<font face="Arial">Lipless rails are NOT Eurorack, they are
FracRack. I don't know where that idea came from but every
19" rack system I have seen since 1970+ has had lipped
rails. The feeble argument <font face="Arial">for lipless
rails is the extra panel space - but that is incredibly
weak considering how incompatible it is with the other
systems.<br>
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<font face="Arial">Power Connector solution IS</font>
poor but a decision was made with the EuroSynth
Specification to acknowledge that their are probably
millions of modules out there using it and not any sense
in changing it to a totally different type. What the
EuroSynth Specification does do is refine the busb<font
face="Arial">oard side of the connect<font
face="Arial">or to make it work better<font
face="Arial">, and YES, it is still backwards
compatible with existing EuroRack</font></font></font>
systems.<br>
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<font face="Arial">Bringing</font> out a new connector
in EuroRack has been tried before and i think the sales
volumes show that it doesn't work. Our busboards and
modules already have a dual-footprint for IDC or 0.156"
(MOTM) connectors so we can ALREADY manufacture<font
face="Arial"> our own Eurorack systems using a
superior connector solution but you try convincing</font>
the 1000's of existing users to change all their systems
over because YOU want to use a better connector.... <br>
<font face="Arial">There are a bucket load of threads</font>
about reversed connectors, impedance problems and lots
of long-winded suggestions on how to resolve it but even
the 'EuroRack Manufacturers' have <font face="Arial">state
that they</font> won't change (why? because they are
(a) scared of upset<font face="Arial">ting a few
existing users and (b) can't be bothered to </font>admit
the problem and make the tiny changes needed for even
the simplest of improvements)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/10/2017 5:45 AM, Roman wrote:<br>
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<div>Why bother with color jacks since whole eurorack is a mess!<br>
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<div>Power source - no specs at all, power cable - crap, power
connector - mistake, mounting screws - M3 or M2.5 or
inch-something, various rail types resulting in different srew
lenght requirement, rails with or without lip, mounting holes in
if full HP or half-HP location, sliding nuts - insanity, panel
thickness and materials, from 1 to 5mm, and I haven't even
touched CV ranges, neither in/out impedances, this list can go
on and on.<br>
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<div>And anybody considering standarize jack colors? Gimme a
break. How about uniform font?<br>
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<div>I think I prefer the way Random Source does the Serge
colour coding in Euro, it goes on the panel rather than on
the jack. just a coloured circle around each jack. And
keep it simple, just red, black and blue, more becomes
messy, IMo<br>
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<div>On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Vladimir Pantelic
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<div>except for the Doepfer range, no other module I have
uses these right angle Cliff jacks. And I don't even
know where to buy the colored version from.<br>
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<div>so unless I do full color print panels, I see not way
to implement this scheme even if I wanted.<br>
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<div>I think that it would make panels look like angry
fruit salads<br>
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<div>and that might be counter-productive. A quick way
to tell<br>
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<div>outputs from inputs would be nice, though.
Something like the<br>
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<div>Cwejman S1 but using brightness rather than hue. Eg
white for<br>
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