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I don't want to argue here, just stating my experience ;)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.07.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Steve:<br>
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<div>Julian Schmidt wrote:<br>
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> Most of what he describes are user errors</div>
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Yeah. Conveniently by definition... that's relevant how?<br>
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by that argument you could also say you want the gas pedal in your
car to be on the left side instead of right and the car should work
how you want it to work. I'd say if you press the brake and expect
the car to accelerate that is a user error.
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He argued how things should not work the way they do (I
concur), complaining about (lack of) design.</div>
<div>(including the back-and-forth commenting under the 1st
post)<br>
How is "he used it wrong" an answer to that?<br>
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It might be that in some programs you just drag an object to move
it.<br>
I don't see a problem in kicads way to move object by pointing the
mouse over it and press the "m" key to move it.<br>
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if you want to move a component without breaking the wire you have
to hold the "strg" key on the keyboard... or use "g" instead of "m"<br>
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<div>> or just don't happen in the build I use (zooming for
example is always mouse pointer centric).</div>
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<div>I tried it with the version which was most recent a couple
days ago, and uninstalled it again because of that - and
reading that it's known, longstanding and they don't care -
which about tells me how wise it is to sink any time into that
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> Ok, I'm using the linux version and take my version from
the latest build and not the old stable branch that is behind
a lot of versions...<br>
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So you're saying their "stable build" is the f'ed up one, and
you're supposed to use the betas?<br>
(with regards to outright bugs like hard-coded paths of the
"it works on my machine award" kind - do they test the stuff
before unleashing it?)</div>
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No I just say I've been using it for the past 5 years, also for
commercial projects, and like using it.<br>
Never encountered a real show stopper.<br>
I don't say it is perfect and I admit it still needs a lot of work
in some areas, but I can perfectly work with the program.<br>
I even think it is much better than for example LT Spice ;) and I
much prefer it over eagle.<br>
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<b>Von:</b> "Julian Schmidt" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:elfenjunge@gmx.net"><elfenjunge@gmx.net></a><br>
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<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [sdiy] Pulsonix PCB design software</div>
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<div style="background-color: rgb(255,255,255);">hmmm...
been using kicad for a few years now.<br>
Most of what he describes are user errors or just don't
happen in the build I use (zooming for example is always
mouse pointer centric).<br>
Ok, I'm using the linux version and take my version from
the latest build and not the old stable branch that is
behind a lot of versions...<br>
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I don't say it is perfect and for sure has some annoying
behaviors, but I really like working with it and I could
not do any PCBs anymore without "push and shove" and
really like that it's currently getting a spice
integration.<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 25.07.2017 um 22:25
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> Kicad might be worth looking into. It's
reliable, easy to work with<br>
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Reeeeally?<br>
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If that's a good sampling of the GUI's typical
"design" choices, "braindead" (like the guy called
it in the last post) seems an apt label.<br>
(alone that going back to center all the time when
zooming, warrants some HARD lashes on the butt)<br>
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Am 25.07.2017 um 21:21 schrieb Gordonjcp:</div>
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<pre>On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 07:37:37PM +0100, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paula@synth.net" onclick="parent.window.location.href='paula@synth.net'; return false;" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">paula@synth.net</a> wrote:
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<pre>I've heard nothing but good things about it.
I'm tempted to look into it some more as Eagle is getting a bit pricey.
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<pre>Kicad might be worth looking into. It's reliable, easy to work with,
doesn't lock your drawings up in proprietary file formats and you can't
argue with the price.
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