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Ok, so you flip at least once per component height class of your
boards ;)<br>
And fiddle with wires / bend them etc to make them go in.<br>
And then cut them after soldering.<br>
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>> <span class="973233415-19072017"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">For SMD, one has to get the resistor
off of a tape. 9 times out of 10, I drop the resistor during
this process <<<br>
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<font color="#0000ff">This, you needn't do.<br>
<font color="#0000ff">Get some of those<font color="#0000ff">:<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/371330932745_/1x-100-Leer-Container-Box-blau-f%C3%BCr-SMD.jpg">https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/371330932745_/1x-100-Leer-Container-Box-blau-f%C3%BCr-SMD.jpg</a><br>
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<font color="#0000ff"><font color="#0000ff"><font
color="#0000ff">Call one pile of them e.g. "the
0805 resistor box", <font color="#0000ff">click
the<font color="#0000ff"> small things</font>
together in a<font color="#0000ff">n
arrangement which makes sense for the<font
color="#0000ff"> ki<font color="#0000ff">nds
of values you have<font color="#0000ff">.<br>
<font color="#0000ff">Then buy <font
color="#0000ff">200 (or <font
color="#0000ff">w</font>hatever
you like) of each value and </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font>pour
them in the correct boxes.<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><font color="#0000ff">T</font>h<font
color="#0000ff">o</font>se "hatches"</font> are <font
color="#0000ff">available as </font>self-closing by
spring.<br>
<br>
<font color="#0000ff">Do the same for other components
commonly used.<br>
<br>
<font color="#0000ff">Then </font>you are set up
for building<font color="#0000ff">:<br>
<font color="#0000ff">With good (perhaps angled)
pointy tweezers</font></font>, you grab into the
box tha<font color="#0000ff">t has the label of the
comp<font color="#0000ff">onent to solder,</font></font>
and grab one of the parts, put it on the PC<font
color="#0000ff">B, there you go.</font><br>
</font></font></font></font></font><br>
</font></span>Not anywhere near as fumbly as buying it on reel
and then cutting them out individually ;-)<br>
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Steve<br>
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Am 19.07.2017 um 17:50 schrieb David G Dixon:<br>
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face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">What's all this
"flipping the board over" and "parts falling out" business?
I stuff all resistors and diodes, hold a small piece of wood
over them, flip once and set down on the piece of wood,
solder all joints, then snip clean. Then I do all sockets,
again, stuff, flip once, solder all joints. Then I finish
with all the random parts that have random heights.
Soldering TH joints takes about 2 seconds per joint once you
get a rhythm going. Plus, I can stuff parts in front of the
TV in my easy chair, then carry the stuffed board out to the
garage for soldering if I want to. That's my usual plan
when it's too warm or cold in the garage.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="973233415-19072017"><font
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Parts do require some
preparation, but I lay out all of my boards so that the
resistor leads are 0.4" apart, and for the standard 1/4W
resistor, all this requires is to bend the leads at a
90-degree angle to the resistor body with my fingers. Then
I snip the leads to about 1 cm. Sometimes I bend all then
snip all, and sometimes I bend and snip each one at a time.
This I consider a part of the procedure of retrieving the
resistors from their respective packages.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="973233415-19072017"><font
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">For SMD, one has to
get the resistor off of a tape. 9 times out of 10, I drop
the resistor during this process. With TH, I can prepare
all of my parts, lay them out on the bench if I want to and
compare them with my BOM. Then I can stuff them in a
completely organized fashion. I always find the stuffing of
my own boards to be a completely pleasurable process, very
relaxing. I could literally do it all day (and I plan to
after I retire from my day job in 2020).</font></span></div>
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Synth-diy [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org">mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>mark verbos<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] Need help with a SMD kit (OT?)<br>
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<div>I’m with Roman. Sure, I have hot tweezers, hot air, a pick
and place machine….</div>
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<div>But I switched entirely to SMD about 10 years ago.
Initially used 1206 passives. I will NEVER go back. It takes
way more time to assemble through hole, with all the flipping
the board over and parts falling out/sticking up too high. The
PCBs are way more cramped and annoying to layout in TH. I
build all of my prototypes with mostly 0603 passives by hand
using nothing more than a fine tipped iron. Also, I use lead
free, organic water clean flux. I wash the PCB with hot
distilled water and the results look like a professional
machine built PCB. I don’t mess with breadboards, I just go
from a drawing to a PCB. When something needs to be reworked,
I use wire-wrap wire and hang parts off the board. Then make
the changes to the PCB file for the future. </div>
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<div>Do a few projects with it, and you’ll never go back. I
promise. </div>
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moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</a>>
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color="#0000ff" size="2">SMD was developed for
robots. I don't feel a need to hone a skill to
compete with a robot, thanks.</font></span></div>
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<div>On 18 Jul 2017, at 22:23, David G Dixon
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post sums up why I simply will not do
SMD by hand. Not... worth... the...
frustration.</font></span></div>
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