<div dir="ltr">I agree that searching title, Issue number and some key words on content would already be super handy. We don't need all the files completely digitized, just a high quality scan with some metadata, much easier! And I'm all in for crowdfunding this endeavor if Bernie sees fit.<div>I think we can raise a good amount, synth diy is rapidly growing as a community, as can be attested by the proliferation of kits and online stores!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Mike HEQX <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@heqx.com" target="_blank">mike@heqx.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>You're right about that Dave. You don't need to be able to search
every single word per page. That is why a good taxonomical index
is the way to go.</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p>Mike<br>
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<div class="m_4556413275651450924moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/2017 4:32 PM, Dave Magnuson
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is
it possible to leave the scans as images and just have
someone add some sort of metadata to each page instead?
Then you’d be searching through perhaps a dozen or two
“keywords” per page instead of the actual document text.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just
a thought… I’ve had terrible luck with OCR myself, except
on the most simple of scans.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Dave
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Synth-diy [<a class="m_4556413275651450924moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">mailto:synth-diy-bounces@<wbr>synth-diy.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Bruno Afonso<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bernard Arthur Hutchins Jr; Rob Kam<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="m_4556413275651450924moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] Can anyone OCR the AN23.PDF File
Here?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd be happy to have a go using open
source software such as tesseract. I feel you cannot
tackle this problem without further teaching the
classifier for the nuances of this text and constraining
of what the possibilities are. I'd like you to rescan a
representative item into tiffs at 300 or 600dpi. You
stated that the tiffs would look the same but that is not
true. The tiff exports out of AN23.pdf do not have the
same quality of the original scanned image (likely tiffs),
and this does not help.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is the end goal to replace the
original image text with just text using a similar font?
For me the most useful would be to have OCR'ed most of
it so it's searchable. But again, you have not set what
you find acceptable or what your goal is. It's ok if you
don't know. You either propose this as a challenge that
will never be possible to accomplish (some teachers
never want to give students top score) or you compromise
and propose a solution that enhances your original pdfs
with value worth money for most people. I find most
people would be happy keeping the original scanned text
and simply having it OCR'ed to the best possible for
their cursory searches. But I may see things different
than most people :) In the academic lingo you should
provide some ground-truth examples of what you imagine
is a perfect conversion of the AN23.pdf, acceptable or
not worth the time. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You can never rely on ONE
volunteer, but you can certainly get many excited so
over time as a group something is accomplished. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM
Bernard Arthur Hutchins Jr <<a href="mailto:bah13@cornell.edu" target="_blank">bah13@cornell.edu</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks
Rob -<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Really
makes my point, and I guess I should not rely on
volunteers! I don't blame you one bit - just
does not work.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I
expect no one else want to try either. If
anyone does, don't look at the crib below until
after you try. Errors located and circled in
red. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://electronotes.netfirms.com/AN23Rob.PDF" id="m_4556413275651450924m_-7117098588547062152m_6399548960396420844LPlnk587417" target="_blank">http://electronotes.netfirms.<wbr>com/AN23Rob.PDF</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Please
all, let's agree that the OCR issue is bogus as
applied here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Bernie<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Rob Kam <<a href="mailto:robkam@ymail.com" target="_blank">robkam@ymail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 6, 2017 1:51 PM</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> Bernard Arthur Hutchins Jr<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] Can anyone OCR
the AN23.PDF File Here?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Thanks for
the challenge Bernie but no thanks. I
don't have the patience to correct the
OCR.<br>
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Rob<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Bernard Arthur Hutchins Jr <<a href="mailto:bah13@cornell.edu" target="_blank">bah13@cornell.edu</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> Rob Kam <<a href="mailto:robkam@ymail.com" target="_blank">robkam@ymail.com</a>>
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<b>Cc:</b> "<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 6 July
2017, 18:30</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] Can
anyone OCR the AN23.PDF File Here?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Rob -<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">True
- the equations are now
usable, but slightly more
blurred than my original
PDF. Likewise, the figures
are now OK but of slightly
lower quality, which does
NOT matter much for hand
drawings. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I
did note a lot of
OCR misreads in the text.
A careful proofing of the
text took me 18 minutes
and there are 25 errors,
some not at all obscure,
and about 13 of which I
had to look at the
original to see what they
were supposed to be. (One
was hard to detect since
it substituted an Rf for
an Ri, a disaster). A
full proofread/correction
would take at least
30 minutes (188 eight-hour
days for 6000 pages).
And I wrote this! Almost
certainly a volunteer
would have more trouble
and miss errors.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">In
the spirit of no good deed
going unpunished, Rob, let
me put you on the spot.
Take your scan, find and
fix the 25 errors. Let us
know how easy/hard this
was and the time it took,
and show your results. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I
will post the "solution"
to the "find the errors"
this evening if I get the
chance.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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there is no improvement in
the figures/equations, and
the text is a serious
downgrade, tell me again
(anyone) why an OCR/ebook
is a good idea here. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Rob Kam <<a href="mailto:robkam@ymail.com" target="_blank">robkam@ymail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
July 6, 2017 7:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bernard
Arthur Hutchins Jr<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br>
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[sdiy] Can anyone OCR
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There’s
a second attempt at
<a href="http://www.sdiy.info/AN23b.rtf" id="m_4556413275651450924m_-7117098588547062152m_6399548960396420844LPlnk72125" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d;text-decoration:none">http://www.sdiy.info/AN23b.rtf</span></a>
converting the
equations to images
instead, (and still
manually tweaking
the OCR). It took
six minutes to do
from the scan/PDF
and the text still
needs comparing and
correcting against
the original.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There
are already experts
at this sort of
project, at
Archive.org who have
been doing this for
a number of years <a href="https://archive.org/details/texts&tab=about" id="m_4556413275651450924m_-7117098588547062152m_6399548960396420844LPlnk637705" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d;text-decoration:none">https://archive.org/details/<wbr>texts&tab=about</span></a>
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<br>
<br>
To put my two
cents in, the synth
DIY community should
see whether they are
able to raise the
funds to compensate
(against unsold
hardcopy, <span class="m_4556413275651450924m-7117098588547062152m6399548960396420844yiv0105428593spelle">ebooks</span>
etc.) for releasing <span class="m_4556413275651450924m-7117098588547062152m6399548960396420844yiv0105428593spelle">Electronotes</span>
under a non-commercial
Creative Commons
licence <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/uk/" target="_blank">https://creativecommons.org/<wbr>licenses/by-nc/2.0/uk/</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rob</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">
Bernard Arthur
Hutchins Jr
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bah13@cornell.edu" target="_blank">bah13@cornell.edu</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06
July 2017 01:42<br>
<b>To:</b> Rob
Kam <<a href="mailto:robkam@ymail.com" target="_blank">robkam@ymail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca" target="_blank">mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [sdiy] Can
anyone OCR the
AN23.PDF File
Here?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Tkanks
Rob - <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">But
a manual
identifications
and 5
minutes/page is
no good for the
small
improvement.
Still months of
8-hour days to
do 6000 pages.
My PDF is still
much better
already. The
equations are
still unusable.
It makes the
same text
errors,
apparently.
Why not just
say it just
can't do this?
Wasn't intended
to. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks
for trying -
useful data
point! <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">
Rob Kam <</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:robkam@ymail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">robkam@ymail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Wednesday,
July 5, 2017
6:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Bernard Arthur
Hutchins Jr; </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
RE: [sdiy] Can
anyone OCR the
AN23.PDF File
Here?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi
Bernie,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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At </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://www.sdiy.info/AN23.rtf" id="m_4556413275651450924m_-7117098588547062152m_6399548960396420844yiv0105428593LPlnk309394" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">http://www.sdiy.info/AN23.rtf</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
this took 10
minutes to OCR
with </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiZhc6ZmPPUAhVG6RQKHRHpA1UQFggoMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abbyy.com%2Fen-gb%2Fsupport%2Ffinereader-12%2F&usg=AFQjCNHLOjsz219pjjTDqDytG2Cpm9N90w" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;text-decoration:none">ABBYY
FineReader 12</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">,
first manually
identifying
areas of text
vs. images.
Obviously it
still needs
further
corrections. <br>
<br>
Rob</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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