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don’t think the issue is whether it can be made into a PDF. It is whether
it can be made into a popular ebook format.</DIV></DIV>
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do this, my understanding is that you run something like Acrobat for OCR, then
worry about fonts, OCR accuracy, and the images.</DIV></DIV>
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way Acrobat seems to work is that it scans the document in OCR mode and assigns
images to each character. In one of my scans it scanned a uppercase “C”
with a little black mark from a character nearby.</DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>So
every uppercase C had that black mark and I found no way to edit the baseline C
image to get rid of it. My pages had a variety of fonts and Acrobat
couldn’t handle that well. As we said earlier, images like schematics have
to be captured as a bitmapped image and inserted into a text page – probably
manually.</DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>I
have PDF images of my book. I was getting them printed from the PDF.
But to sell your ebook on Amazon or many other ebook outlets a PDF is not
acceptable. </DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>It
could be said that people would pay for a PDF even though it could be
copied. The O’Reilly books I mentioned earlier can be downloaded after
purchase in PDF form so many authors are open to the idea.</DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>My
books were scanned by Western Digital’s (former employer) internal printing
service. They had a machine that you just feed in the originals and it
scans both sides of hundreds of pages very quickly.</DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Besides
the downside of PDF copying, you don’t get exposure by Amazon as they don’t
support sales of PDF versions.</DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>As
you can see, we already have people that have access to the PDF making systems
and think they are doing the world a favor by then copying the work and
releasing it free.</DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Like
Bernie, I wasn’t making much per book after printing costs and manual
labor. Shipping costs have become too high for book shipments overseas or
even to Canada. </DIV></DIV>
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Amazon were to offer books in PDF I’d probably do it. Better than nothing
happening at all. </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dixon@mail.ubc.ca>David G
Dixon</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 03, 2017 6:46 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=bah13@cornell.edu>'Bernard Arthur Hutchins Jr'</A> ; <A
title=synth-diy@synth-diy.org>synth-diy@synth-diy.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sdiy] Can anyone OCR the AN23.PDF File
Here?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562304313-03072017><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Great post!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562304313-03072017><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I work at a university. Our department has two big copy
machines. I could feed 100 pages of Electronotes in and have a PDF of it
on my laptop in about 2 minutes. I may do this for some things, because I
like to read this stuff when I travel and I can't really carry 6000 pages around
Europe or South America in my carry-on luggage.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562304313-03072017><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Basically, I'd be happy to do this just for my own purposes,
and then email the scan files to Bernie Hutchins for free. That's the
context that's missing from ENWN49 -- he wouldn't have to pay anyone anything at
all to do this. There are dozens of people out here in web-land that would
do it for free just for yuks. I'm currently on sabbatical, so have lots of
free time to stand at a copy machine.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Synth-diy
[mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bernard Arthur
Hutchins Jr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 01, 2017 9:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
synth-diy@synth-diy.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [sdiy] Can anyone OCR the AN23.PDF
File Here?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P>Here is a brand new Electronotes webnote with regard to digital
conversion. It includes a test PDF scan of an app note (AN23) with my
failure to get anything usable baring extensive editing. Can anyone get
an acceptable automated conversion?</P>
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<P><A id=LPlnk15350 class=OWAAutoLink
href="http://electronotes.netfirms.com/ENWN49.pdf"
previewremoved="true">http://electronotes.netfirms.com/ENWN49.pdf</A><BR></P>
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<P>Thanks -Bernie</P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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