<div style="white-space:pre-wrap">Check the supply means check all the supplies. Do you have all the other rails and reference voltages? The service manual is online and you could check that for resets etc. You should also consider contacting Waldorf for advice. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:46 Julian Schmidt <<a href="mailto:elfenjunge@gmx.net">elfenjunge@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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yeah but these are ROM not RAM.<br class="gmail_msg">
The datasheet says "These ROMs may be factory programmed with data
or programs provided by the application developer."<br class="gmail_msg">
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No idea if waldorf went all the way to burn a custom loader into
these ROMs at the chip factory.<br class="gmail_msg">
At least the normal firmware should be located on the flash,
otherwise you could not update it.<br class="gmail_msg">
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julian</div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
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<div class="m_-3623686774793941938moz-cite-prefix gmail_msg">Am 23.02.2017 um 16:39 schrieb Terry
Shultz:<br class="gmail_msg">
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Hello All,
<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
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<div class="gmail_msg">The DSP56362 Motorola DSP does have P, X, and Y
memory</div>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT'" class="gmail_msg">On-Chip
Memories<br class="gmail_msg">
— Modified Harvard architecture allows simultaneous
access to program and data memories
— 30720 x 24-bit on-chip program ROM</span><span style="font-size:10.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT';vertical-align:5.000000pt" class="gmail_msg">1 </span><span style="font-size:12.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT'" class="gmail_msg">(disabled in 16-bit compatibility mode)<br class="gmail_msg">
— 6144 x 24-bit on-chip X-data ROM</span><span style="font-size:10.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT';vertical-align:5.000000pt" class="gmail_msg">1<br class="gmail_msg">
</span><span style="font-size:12.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT'" class="gmail_msg">— 6144 x 24-bit on-chip
Y-data ROM</span><span style="font-size:10.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT';vertical-align:5.000000pt" class="gmail_msg">1<br class="gmail_msg">
</span><span style="font-size:12.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT'" class="gmail_msg">— Program RAM,
instruction cache, X data RAM, and Y data RAM sizes
are programmable
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-weight:700" class="gmail_msg">Instruction
Cache
</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">Disabled
Enabled
Disabled
Enabled
</span></p>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-weight:700" class="gmail_msg">Switch
Mode
</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">Disabled
Disabled
Enabled
Enabled
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-weight:700" class="gmail_msg">Program RAM
Size
</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">3072 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
2048 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
5120 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
4096 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
</span></p>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-weight:700" class="gmail_msg">Instruction
Cache Size
</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">0<br class="gmail_msg">
1024 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
0<br class="gmail_msg">
1024 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
</span></p>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-weight:700" class="gmail_msg">X Data RAM Size
</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">5632 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
5632 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
5632 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
5632 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
</span></p>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-weight:700" class="gmail_msg">Y Data RAM Size
</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">5632 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
5632 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
3584 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
3584 </span><span style="font-size:9.000000pt;font-family:'SymbolMT'" class="gmail_msg">× </span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">24-bit
</span></p>
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<img alt="page4image15160" id="m_-36236867747939419389EE12412-1A94-4351-94CB-9E17DC715F7E" class="gmail_msg"> <img alt="page4image15320" id="m_-362368677479394193899CD177E-AFCB-4939-B45D-3CCB4B503B76" class="gmail_msg">
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="gmail_msg">1.
</span></p>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT'" class="gmail_msg">— 192 x
24-bit bootstrap ROM (disabled in sixteen-bit
compatibility mode)
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<li style="font-size:12.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT'" class="gmail_msg">
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg">Off-Chip
Memory Expansion
</span></p>
<ul style="list-style-type:none" class="gmail_msg">
<li class="gmail_msg">
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg">—
Datamemoryexpansionto256Kx24-bitwordmemoryforP,X,andYmemoryusingSRAM.
</span></p>
</li>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg">—
Datamemoryexpansionto16Mx24-bitwordmemoryforP,X,andYmemoryusingDRAM.
</span></p>
</li>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg">—
Externalmemoryexpansionport(twenty-fourdatapinsforhighspeedexternalmemoryaccessallowing
for a large number of external accesses per
sample)
</span></p>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg">— Chip select logic for glueless
interface to SRAMs
</span></p>
</li>
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<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg">— On-chip DRAM controller for
glueless interface to DRAMs</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg">regards,</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
</span></p>
<p class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="gmail_msg">Terry </span></p>
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<div class="gmail_msg">On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Julian Schmidt
<<a href="mailto:elfenjunge@gmx.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">elfenjunge@gmx.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="gmail_msg"> I checked
the 3.3V supply and it delivers stable 3.3V<br class="gmail_msg">
Xtal is running at 14.3MHz and the Clock IC is
forwarding the clock to the DSP<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
I only worked with SHARC DSPs so far, but I guess the
motorola DSP has no internal program memory and is
bootet by the uC from flash and has its OS stored in the
attached SRAM?<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
The rest of the PCB, especially around the DSPs looks
pretty good. All sketchy looking parts where located to
the left of the uC and the DSP is on its right side.
Caps look good, too.<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
Here is a pic of the board.<br class="gmail_msg">
<a class="m_-3623686774793941938moz-txt-link-freetext gmail_msg" href="http://chipmusik.de/dump/uQ.jpg" target="_blank">http://chipmusik.de/dump/uQ.jpg</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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I'm a bit concerned that the firmware update does not
seem to work, as I guess the DSP should not be involved
with that.<br class="gmail_msg">
Maybe an indication that it could be the flash indeed?<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
Any idea how to check the flash?<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
Julian<br class="gmail_msg">
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<div class="m_-3623686774793941938moz-cite-prefix gmail_msg">Am 23.02.2017 um 15:56
schrieb Christian Tecl:<br class="gmail_msg">
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<div class="m_-3623686774793941938mail_android_message gmail_msg" style="line-height:1;padding:0.5em">Hello list - hello Julian....<br class="gmail_msg">
I guess you already checked everything round that
flip flop, resistors, diodes etc... To me there are
also reasons to suggest a problem with power supply,
maybe you check that also before soldering that
dsp... And think about the possibility that it could
be the flash, also. Like to hear what you are
discovering. Greets Christian<br class="gmail_msg">
-- <br class="gmail_msg">
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android
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<div class="m_-3623686774793941938mail_android_quote gmail_msg" style="line-height:1;padding:0.3em">Am 23.02.2017, 15:24, Julian Schmidt
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schrieb:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0.8ex 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> I have a broken
microQ in the workshop right now.<br class="gmail_msg">
It arrived with a scrambled LCD that only showed
garbage.<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
after opening it up I saw someone butcher the
D-Flipflop (bend and<br class="gmail_msg">
shorted pins)<br class="gmail_msg">
after replacing it the unit boots again, waldorf
welcome screen, os2.2,<br class="gmail_msg">
then preset name.<br class="gmail_msg">
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yay!<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
bad news is the unit immediately freezes. No
buttons and encoders do<br class="gmail_msg">
something. :(<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
I tried the firmware update but on reveiving the
sysex data the power<br class="gmail_msg">
button makes a quick flash, 4 or 5 vertical bars
appear in the LCD and<br class="gmail_msg">
then nothing happens. Pingpong chaselight on the
Inst. 1-4 LEDs and the<br class="gmail_msg">
message "please play back dump" or something like
that in the screen.<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
In factory test mode all buttons, LEDs and
encoders work.<br class="gmail_msg">
Audio out test does not work (silence on all outs)<br class="gmail_msg">
and the DSP test fails.<br class="gmail_msg">
it only shows:<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
1:----- 2:----- 3:sig!<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
and repeatedly flashes "DSP REBOOT" every second.<br class="gmail_msg">
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So my guess is that I have a broken DSP.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Is it worth it to try and replace the DSP? they
are still in stock at<br class="gmail_msg">
digikey.<br class="gmail_msg">
But I am open for other ideas since I'm not keen
on desoldering the LQFP144.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Best,<br class="gmail_msg">
Julian<br class="gmail_msg">
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