<div dir="auto">Are you pulling any current through the wiper of the pot?<div dir="auto">I guess that would also ruin the linearity.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">/mr</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Den 16 dec. 2016 10:26 fm skrev "Rutger Vlek" <<a href="mailto:rutgervlek@gmail.com">rutgervlek@gmail.com</a>>:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi guys,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the explanations. It makes sense, I just never saw the effect being so obvious. Removing the pointer on the knob is indeed a very effective solution, and it was already on my list of ways to overcome this. I just felt I wanted to make sure I understood the problem first, before attempting to work around it. I haven't been able to find the curves for these knobs, but I will do another search. It would be useful to know them.</div><div><br></div><div>Indeed it also makes sense that you don't want to risk running into mechanical span limitations before reaching the full electrical span.</div><div><br></div><div>Rutger</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 15 dec 2016, at 18:00, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:</div><br class="m_-147213560850600101Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">after all, isn't that the point of the 16 LEDs?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Richie Burnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rburnett@richieburnett.co.uk" target="_blank">rburnett@richieburnett.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Why not fit a control knob that doesn't have any discernible pointer on it, then it doesn't need to line up with the LEDs ?<br>
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Or use a 16-way switch and loose the ADC and the logic etc. The ADC output code will chatter near it's decision thresholds anyway unless you somehow implement a small deadband.<br>
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-Richie,<br>
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On 14/12/2016 16:03, Rutger Vlek wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I'm working on what's basically a continuous pot turned into a<br>
16-position switch. It's a circuit that uses a simple free-running<br>
ADC to convert a 0 to 5V output from a potentiometer digital outputs<br>
that control switching of a 16-way CMOS switch and a 16-way LED<br>
driver. The led driver lights a LED in a ring of 16 around the pot to<br>
indicate the selected position. However, in the prototype the LED<br>
being lit doesn't line up with the position of the pot. The pot is a<br>
10K linear one, but from my measurements it seems it is non-linear<br>
towards the extremes. The angle of physical rotation doesn't line up<br>
so well with the angle over which the resistance changes linearly. Is<br>
that a common property of pots? I hadn't seen it so clearly before.<br>
Any ideas on how to easily overcome it without needing both a gain<br>
and offset trimmer in the circuit?<br>
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Any pot with less than 360 degrees of mechanical rotation will have at<br>
least a small deadzone at the two extremes of travel where the wiper is<br>
fixed at 0% or 100%. Manufacturers cannot risk the scenario where the<br>
mechanical rotation is slightly _less_ than the electrical rotation - in<br>
your application, that would mean that you could not quite reach 0V or<br>
5V - so they err on the side of caution and make the mechanical rotation<br>
slightly larger. The deadzones are where the wiper is running over the<br>
minimally-resistive metallised end contacts rather than the resistive track.<br>
<br>
How big the deadzones are will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer,<br>
introducing yet another way in which crap pots can be crapper than good<br>
ones.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Steve L.<br>
Benden Sound Technology<br>
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