<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">So I take it we can't find these illuminated incremental encoders anywhere in a version with threaded shafts and have to add our own threaded shaft after the fact? (since that is essentially what these are).<div><br></div><div>Really? Not available threaded? Nowhere?!</div><div><br></div><div>(It may be that not - that's why I'm asking. If I knew somewhere, I'd tell you.)</div><div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div><div><br><div><div>On 29 Nov 2016, at 20:20, "Matthias Herrmann" <<a href="mailto:matthias.herrmann@fonik.de">matthias.herrmann@fonik.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Anybody used axle bushings like these? they should keep some stress from the encoder:<br><a href="http://www.reichelt.de/Potiknoepfe/P6-SCREW-ACHSE/3/index.html?ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=42129&GROUPID=3139&artnr=P6+SCREW+ACHSE&SEARCH=%252A" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.reichelt.de/Potiknoepfe/P6-SCREW-ACHSE/3/index.html?ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=42129&GROUPID=3139&artnr=P6+SCREW+ACHSE&SEARCH=%252A</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt; "><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Synth-diy [mailto:synth-<a href="mailto:diy-bounces@synth-diy.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">diy-bounces@synth-diy.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Jean-Pierre Desrochers<br><b>Gesendet:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dienstag, 29. November 2016 21:00<br><b>An:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tom Wiltshire<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br><b>Betreff:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [sdiy] Incremental encoder to up / down counter or pots and an ADC<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Hi Tom,<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">> A non-threaded shaft is never going to be tight in the first place, is it?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">> <u>As long as the hole that that the encoder goes through is a nice tight fit</u>..<br>
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That's exactly the problem with MANY cheapo mixers that have too large holes<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">for the pot's shaft and these shafts are rocked in all the way<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">with no secure mecanical provision.. Even with a brand new console<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">you can 'feel' the loose the shafts have in their non supporting holes.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Sometimes companies like Fender (to name one) use small plastic<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">washers to fill the holes circular gaps for tightening the shafts in place.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">These pots or encoders are too often used with too much of their shaft<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">going outside the metal front panel causing the premature mecanical<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">degradation. Try to imagine.. when you need to pull their knobs for repair<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">you fear of ripping these shaft out of the device..<o:p></o:p></pre><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br>JP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Le 2016-11-29 14:09, Tom Wiltshire a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">+1 agree. This is a classic microcontroller job.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">JP, what do you mean that these non-threaded shafts "get loose over time"? A non-threaded shaft is never going to be tight in the first place, is it? As long as the hole that that the encoder goes through is a nice tight fit, I don't see a particular problem (assuming the PCB is well supported). So what am I missing?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Tom<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><div><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>