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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As a former MicroChip engineer, I’m getting a kick out of these posts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The *<b>default</b>* is not to provide target power, but you can set it so that the ICD3 or PICKIT3 can power, but there is current-limiting set and the *<b>intent</b>* is to power JUST the PIC and NOT your entire board.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>BTW:, my former buddy at MCHP just has had his new Explorer 16/32 board released, which is a tad $$$ but makes it REALLY easy to develop SW. Has LCD, temp sensors, LEDs, switches, ICD3 is *<b>built in</b>* to the board, USB3 support, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Note that this is mainly a SW development platform, not a HW one. It uses little plug-in CPU ‘modules’ (usually $25ea, there are 100s of them) for the device “family” of interest (usually the largest pinout/memory).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I used one every day for 4 years (the previous one) and actually designed 4 of these little CPU boards.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul S.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>/retired, sorta<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces@dropmix.xs4all.nl] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pete Hartman<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 23, 2016 12:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tom Wiltshire<br><b>Cc:</b> Sdiy<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] Microcontrollers, development environments and hardware programmer recommendations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Tom Wiltshire <<a href="mailto:tom@electricdruid.net" target="_blank">tom@electricdruid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> 2. a hardware programmer, portability is key. USB and port powered preferable.<br><br>PICKit3 is cheap ($40 or so) and does the job. With this programmer, power is not supplied by the programmer, so the chip has to be powered, or you need to be programming a chip in a prototype circuit or on a breadboard.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That doesn't match my experience at all... ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I had to go tweak some settings in the MPLAB X IDE to tell it to supply power, but once I did, I could program with the PICKit 3 and basically a socket on a stripboard, no other power source. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>