<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On the hardware side, I'd be interested to learn whether there's anything very special about the Midiverb line's A/D converters. I love sampling synths through a Midiverb II with its input sensitivity cranked, and I've never been sure if the Midiverb did any distinctive clipping to make that arrangement sound so good, or if it was just the magic algorithms as others have suggested.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Kenji</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:33 AM Richie Burnett <<a href="mailto:rburnett@richieburnett.co.uk" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">rburnett@richieburnett.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As far as I know it's all in the reverb algorithms. Some of the later<br class="gmail_msg">
Midiverb used the general purpose micro (that handles MIDI and the UI) to<br class="gmail_msg">
poke new coefficient values into the DSP part on the fly to do modulation<br class="gmail_msg">
effects like flange and chorus, and also to add a bit of movement to break<br class="gmail_msg">
up the metallic ringing in long reverb tails. Keith Barr has been quite<br class="gmail_msg">
open about the design and algorithms of the Midiverb in various online<br class="gmail_msg">
forums.<br class="gmail_msg">
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As I understand it, the FV-1 is Keith's result of distilling down the bare<br class="gmail_msg">
essentials of what makes a good reverb, and then designing a "DSP" chip<br class="gmail_msg">
optimised for this task. For instance it has hardware sine/cosine LFO's,<br class="gmail_msg">
and can implement things like linear interpolation and allpass filters using<br class="gmail_msg">
just a pair of special instructions tailored to chorus/reverb generation.<br class="gmail_msg">
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-Richie,<br class="gmail_msg">
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To: Mikko Helin<br class="gmail_msg">
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Subject: Re: [sdiy] Midiverb reverse engineer project?<br class="gmail_msg">
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On 18 Oct 2016, at 11:56, Mikko Helin <<a href="mailto:maohelin@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">maohelin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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> You don't need to reverse engineer the hardware, the sound is in the<br class="gmail_msg">
> algorithms I guess.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Is that right? Did any of the early units do anything special on the analog<br class="gmail_msg">
side? Compander or tone filters or anything? I don't know anything about the<br class="gmail_msg">
Alesis reverb units, and I never owned one.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Aside from that sort of pre/post processing, I agree - you should be able to<br class="gmail_msg">
take a recent basic DSP and recreate it exactly. Doing it on an FV-1 would<br class="gmail_msg">
be a nice touch, since Keith Barr designed that chip.<br class="gmail_msg">
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