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size=2 face=Arial>To me, DIY is doing everything myself, which is how I built my
modular (and helped create one of the larger eurorack synth companies in the
process). My problem with DIY is that I suck at doing most of it, so my
modular has a definitely "amateurish" look to it. For panels, I bake
Lazertran onto bare aluminum. It's not ideal as they don't always turn out
perfect, but it's quick and cheap, and that is the main thing for me. I
made my cases out of scrap wood from old school bookshelves that had been thrown
away -- again, cheap was the main criterion -- but I suck at
woodworking. For layouts, I use Excel and then etch my own boards from the
graphics I make. I started doing this for breadboards, and then realized I
could do it for PCBs as well. It's slow and cumbersome, but I enjoy it and
I don't feel like learning Eagle or whatever. For schematics I do
everything in Multisim -- I love those simulations!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=334110021-04052016><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I guess the only thing I'm really good at is the actual
circuit design, which is why Intellijel is so much more successful than my own
modular building adventures.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Synth-diy
[mailto:synth-diy-bounces@dropmix.xs4all.nl] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul
B<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 04, 2016 1:44 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Roman
Sowa<BR><B>Cc:</B> synthdiy diy<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sdiy] What is DIY?
(was Re: Digital delay memory)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P dir=ltr>Last night I was finishing off building an itead pcb and panel
order I'd done from tom whitwells files and my wife said "Oh my god did you do
that all yourself?"</P>
<P dir=ltr>Obviously I said yes but nbd and polished my nails but in my head I
was thinking the number of parts I didn't do myself is far more than those I
did.</P>
<P dir=ltr>I'm looking forward to maybe being able to draw schems and laying
out pcbs and etch them and design and manufacture panels and design and build
a nice new case, that is the diy endgame for me.</P>
<P dir=ltr>But I'm not interested in smelting aluminium or perfecting
anodising processes or writing code or breaking new barriers of electronics.
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<P dir=ltr>I know this may draw scorn from some of the long in the tooth EEs
who can fart out a VCO in an afternoon, but I'm not alone. </P>
<P dir=ltr>There's an insurgence of emerging amatuer makers who want to be
part of an exciting feild and they bring with them a full spectrum of what DIY
is. </P>
<P dir=ltr>Long Live the New Flesh!</P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 4 May 2016 09:00, "Roman Sowa" <<A
href="mailto:modular@go2.pl">modular@go2.pl</A>> wrote:<BR
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class=gmail_quote>Maybe we all talk about 2 unrelated areas: something that
was called DIY 20 years ago, and DIY-kit mania, that is somehow recent
thing, when people just solder PCB provided in the kit, attach panel, case
and so on, and expect everything to fit.<BR><BR>For me DIY is anything I can
do myself, and because I'm happy to have all that equippment now, I can DIY
on much higher level than 10 years ago, be it circuits, panels, cases, or
furniture. It's far from DIY-kit concept, as most of it is unorganized and
large parts of the design are made on the go, while next steps of making
pass. And because I have those tools, I like to utilize them, so that
affects the whole idea of DIY, starting from product concept. So even if I
documented all the process, this still would not look like DIY to most home
soldering/building enthusiasts. But it is DIY for me, because I did all
myself.<BR><BR>SMD is still scarry to most people, just like it was 20 years
ago when I started using it. And probably will be in 20 years from now,
especially when packages will become much smaller than today.<BR>But that's
no stopper for DIY-kit movement, as more and more projects are made using
premade hardware blocks and software libraries, so you can just plug the
boards together, add a few lines of code and upload firmware. I think this
is the future of DIY, less hardware making struggle, more imagination beyond
limits.<BR><BR>Roman<BR><BR>W dniu 2016-04-29 o 21:24, Tom Wiltshire
pisze:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>On 29 Apr 2016, at 19:46, Jason Tribbeck <<A
href="mailto:jason@tribbeck.com" target=_blank>jason@tribbeck.com</A>>
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class=gmail_quote>Maybe that could be the topic of another thread - what
is DIY? What can be expected of people?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I think it
varies hugely. Or put another way, we're not all Jürgen Haible.<BR><BR>My
own DIY has improved enormously over the years as my knowledge and
experience have grown. One of the things that's important to me now is
trying to design projects that will inspire people to try something a bit
further on from what they might have otherwise tried. I've been using PICs
to try and reduce the number of components in classic circuits and make
them easier to manage. Basically, I'm trying to design the stuff that I
would have wished for when I was starting out.<BR><BR>Personally, I don't
have access to anything like your lab resources, Jason, and I doubt that
people I'm designing for do either, so through-hole is pretty much
essential. I try to avoid needing an oscilloscope to trim a circuit, since
although I've got one, many people don't. The scope is to help the
*designer*, not the *builder*. I assume only that they can solder
reasonably well (although I design boards with *far* wider tolerances than
you're doing) and that they have a multimeter. I've started doing stomp
box stuff recently, and the people who build that are…well, they're
*guitarists*! They know which end of the soldering iron to hold, mostly.
I'm joking, but the point is serious - some of the people involved in
music DIY aren't technical people at all. And this is a good thing.
Perhaps some of them will become interested and take it further. After
all, I
did.<BR><BR>Tom<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Synth-diy
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