<div dir="ltr">You're not supposed to use comic sans, Tim ;-)<div><br></div><div>Pete</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Tim Ressel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:timr@circuitabbey.com" target="_blank">timr@circuitabbey.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Good stuff, Jay.</p>
<p>One thing that frustrates me during module design is CV range.
First you have the LFO/EG dilemma. LFOs tend to be bipolar where
EGs tend to be unipolar. Then the module under design inherently
wants a certain range. The best solution is to have attenverters
and offset pots on all CV inputs. But of course now you have a
front panel with 1000 knobs. One can get quite gray sorting this
out. Trust me ;-)</p>
<p>On the issue of "crappy graphics", we are talking about artists
here. A certain amount of 'out there' is expected and tolerated.
However it can go too far, and has. I have modules labelled in
Russian. The only way I can use the thing at all is the layout is
well done so all the controls are obvious. I also have a module
that I can never remember how it all works because it uses
graphics only, no text. And the graphics are not obvious.<br>
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<p>And then there was the guy who groused about the font I used. Not
because it was unreadable, oh no, you can read it just fine. He
just didn't like it. Bottom line: you can't please everyone, so
don't even try. <br>
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<p>--TimR<br>
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Subject: Re: [sdiy] From a commercial standpoint -- has Eurorack "won"?
You can always patch VC control of resonance. Just send the filter
output to an inverter, then to a VCA, then back into another filter
input. Voila, control the VCA = control filter resonance. Some cool
results can be had. I even did this in a few of the factory presets
for the new Moog Model 15 app.
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<pre>I think this addresses a very good point with the architecture of
synths/modules.
One way of building them is to but everything and the kitchen sink into
modules. Another is to provide minimal or stripped down functionality in
them but have a bunch of modules that for the lack of a better term are
utility modules. You can then use the utility modules to build up higher
level functions much like Quincas has pointed out here. I'm more of a
utility module person. I think that in the long run it gives you more
versatility than modules that have more features. More complex modules can
take up more front panel space and typically you can only use that extra
functionality in that module.
Also on the issue of hard to use panels either by crappy graphics or being
too cramped really surprises me. People just aren't thinking when they do
some of this stuff. I wonder how many more MakeNoise modules would be sold
if they wouldn't of been so 'cute' in the panel graphics.
I look at Serge synths and Serge clones that are being built and have issues
with them. While there is a lot of good functionality there most of the
panels just don't have a good 'functional flow' for me. I look at them and
go if I wanted to do patch X I'd have to run patch cables from the one side
to the other side of a panel a lot. Seems they could organize the panels
better for modulation blocks, tone blocks and so on.
Jay S.
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