<p dir="ltr">First, I agree that I am not in the "re cap just cos" camp. Look for something actually wrong, don't guess.</p>
<p dir="ltr">However, I have seen electro caps fail in synths, and other types of caps as well. </p>
<p dir="ltr">One of my first repairs was a Roland S-10 sampler that had bad Mylar caps in the supply section.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Another, I believe I may have discussed in this list, was an XP-50 where some smd electros in the later signal path had leaked crap on the boards and had terrible hiss in the output.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Now, those may have been cheap junk, but given the general pressure to reduce cost, I don't know that we can make a priori assumptions that any given synth is made with all high quality caps.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Neither example is a "classic" of course, but I think the general principal applies.</p>
<p dir="ltr">TL;DR version: caps do fail in old synths. Dismissing the idea out of hand is no more sensible than the urge to re cap everything.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks</p>
<p dir="ltr">Pete</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 31, 2016 5:51 PM, "Michael E Caloroso" <<a href="mailto:mec.forumreader@gmail.com" target="_blank">mec.forumreader@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't subscribe to the "re-cap" club. Very rarely does it fix<br>
anything in synths or string machines.<br>
<br>
Electrolytics do fail, but usually when subjected to high heat. Think<br>
guitar amps and power amplifiers. Not synths. Lots of myths from the<br>
guitar world propagate to the synth world.<br>
<br>
Solina did not use a commander for the BBD circuits. That is the<br>
accepted technique to reduce noise in BBDs.<br>
<br>
MC<br>
<br>
On 1/31/16, Gordonjcp <<a href="mailto:gordonjcp@gjcp.net" target="_blank">gordonjcp@gjcp.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:26:04PM +0000, Chris Juried wrote:<br>
>> Agreed, Tom. Strap an ESR meter to those caps and watch the resistance<br>
>> shoot up. Replace them and watch you AC ripple fall. Sincerely,<br>
><br>
> Unlikely. Except in cheap crappy switched-mode power supplies,<br>
> electrolytics just don't fail. Maybe if you're working on equipment that<br>
> was built in and has not been switched on since the 1950s or 1960s, you'd<br>
> have a problem.<br>
><br>
> In roughly 30 years of repairing electronic equipment I've replaced maybe<br>
> half a dozen genuinely faulty electrolytics (save the aforementioned cheap<br>
> crappy SMPSUs - if I never see an Amstrad satellite TV receiver again it'll<br>
> still be too soon). Disc ceramic and tantalum bead capacitors are a<br>
> different story altogther.<br>
><br>
> Incidentally, I automatically charge an extra 300 quid to even carry<br>
> something that's been "re-capped" in from the car, never mind take the<br>
> screws out. Every single piece of equipment I've seen that has been<br>
> "re-capped" has had significant faults, made worse by the "HERP DERP IT NO<br>
> WORKY MUST BE CAPACITATORS" mentality that leads people to fuck about with<br>
> the insides blindly. Generally it takes a full day of work to get anything<br>
> "re-capped" to even run at all, never mind correctly.<br>
><br>
> Never, *ever* "re-cap" things. If it has a fault, fix it. It won't be an<br>
> electrolytic capacitor.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Gordonjcp MM0YEQ<br>
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