<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40582"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40816">Hi Tom,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40970"><br><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40973"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40972">Not exactly. Your talking to a guy with (2) 24 track Studer decks, Studer A807, Studer A810, Otari MX5050 BII, Tascam 38, Tascam 122mkII, Revox, etc... tape decks. However, I do own many digital decks in the form of CD, DAT, Mitsubishi X-850 32 track 1", etc...<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40975"><br><span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40978"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40977">I am aware of Rupert Neve, analog designs, reaching exceptionally low noise floors approaching that of digital gear.<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_43121" dir="ltr"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40977"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_43059" dir="ltr"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40977">There is a lot to be said for ultrasonic (above the perceived upper limits of human hearing 17-20kHz) frequencies, reproducible by analog equipment (not limited by the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem), </span>and their effects on the audible frequencies we hear. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_43931" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_43963" dir="ltr">With respect to degradation of media, many of my tapes (Ampex, BASF, Agfa) have deteriorated due to the "Sticky-shed syndrome" though all my Scotch/3M products have held up exceptionally well. <br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">In any case I look forward to a fun discussion.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_43431" dir="ltr"><font class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_41374" size="2" face="Arial"><br></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40586" class="signature"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40585"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40584" size="2">Sincerely, <br> </font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40594"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40633" size="2">Chris Juried <br>Audio Engineering Society (AES) <var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var>Member <br>InfoComm-Recognized AV Technologist</font><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40629" class="postbody"><br><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40631" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.juriedengineering.com/">http://www.JuriedEngineering.com</a> (Juried Engineering, LLC.)<br><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40818" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.tubeequipment.com/">http://www.TubeEquipment.com</a> (Tube Equipment Corporation)<br><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40628" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.historyofrecording.com/">http://www.HistoryOfRecording.com</a> (History of Recording)</span><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40593" size="3"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453837049865_40592" size="2"><br><br>This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. 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If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify me and permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof.</font></font><br></div></div><br> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Wiltshire <tom@electricdruid.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Chris Juried <cjuried@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "Lanterman, Aaron" <lanterma@ece.gatech.edu>; synth-diy List <synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:16 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [sdiy] "Digital vs analog waveforms" [was: Ways for innovation]<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>I expect he's just saying that he likes a nice clean 16-bit/44.1KHz CD over a noisy old cassette tape. Hard not to agree, really. Especially once the tape's been in the back of a cupboard unloved for a few years and has print-through to boot. That's "degradation of stated media", I suppose.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Still, even offered a brand new consumer cassette or a CD, you'd still choose the CD, wouldn't you? There's no comparison in terms of S/N or distortion, not to mention wow and flutter.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 27 Jan 2016, at 11:17, Chris Juried <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:cjuried@yahoo.com" href="mailto:cjuried@yahoo.com">cjuried@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Hi Aaron,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Are your preferences based on degradation of stated media and/or accurate reproduction of the original waveform? <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Sincerely, <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Chris Juried <br clear="none">> Audio Engineering Society (AES) Member <br clear="none">> InfoComm-Recognized AV Technologist<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.juriedengineering.com/" target="_blank">http://www.JuriedEngineering.com </a>(Juried Engineering, LLC.)<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.tubeequipment.com/" target="_blank">http://www.TubeEquipment.com </a>(Tube Equipment Corporation)<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.historyofrecording.com/" target="_blank">http://www.HistoryOfRecording.com </a>(History of Recording)<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. 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If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify me and permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> From: "Lanterman, Aaron" <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lanterma@ece.gatech.edu" href="mailto:lanterma@ece.gatech.edu">lanterma@ece.gatech.edu</a>><br clear="none">> To: synth-diy List <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl" href="mailto:synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a>> <br clear="none">> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:38 PM<br clear="none">> Subject: [sdiy] "Digital vs analog waveforms" [was: Ways for innovation]<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On Jan 22, 2016, at 10:27 AM, <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:spivkurl@wearerecords.com" href="mailto:spivkurl@wearerecords.com">spivkurl@wearerecords.com</a> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> > they express their unfounded claims about how a digital waveform is that same or "higher resolution" (uh I hate that) than an analog waveform… <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> I must once again remind cite the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist–Shannon_sampling_theorem</a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> When you’re listening to a “digital waveform,” by that point it’s been converted back to analog. Analog and digital transmission and storage formats have different strengths and weaknesses. Analog formats tend to degrade gracefully; digital formats have a sharp degradation curve, in which they’re perfect until they’re garbage (as I’ve learned going through archiving some old DAT tapes). Digital waveforms are converted to “analog” for transmission — the cable your internet service uses doesn’t know anything about “bits,” but the circuits encoding and decoding those bits do. <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> I’ll take a “digital waveform” off of high-rate AAC file or a CD over an analog waveform off my old consumer cassette tapes.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> - Aaron<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> Synth-diy mailing list<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl" href="mailto:Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><div class="yqt4014305439" id="yqtfd89027"><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> Synth-diy mailing list<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl" href="mailto:Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy" target="_blank">http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>