<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Dementia seems like the least of my problems, aside from that pesky jury trial coming up!</div><div><br></div><div>But in all seriousness, I can feel the immediate effects of smoking while soldering in the several days following. I can't deny the possibility that it is a big part of my neurological disorder, though I have had many head injuries in my life (starting when I has an infant) as well. As a reference, I have used many different kinds of solder including lead free, and have had negative immediate effects throughout all of them.</div><div><br></div><div>The bathroom fan with ducting seems to be a great simple solution, and I should probably do that. Then stop ingesting solder on my smokes!<br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [sdiy] Which solder is safer for home projects ?<br>
From: Dan Snazelle <<a href="mailto:subjectivity@hotmail.com">subjectivity@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Fri, October 23, 2015 11:30 am<br>
To: <a href="mailto:spivkurl@wearerecords.com">spivkurl@wearerecords.com</a><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:info@oldeblock.com">info@oldeblock.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:info@oldeblock.com">info@oldeblock.com</a>>, Tom Bugs<br>
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<div>I agree </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Exactly why I asked </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Last thing I want is dementia !!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thnx <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:23 PM, <a target="_blank" href="mailto:spivkurl@wearerecords.com">spivkurl@wearerecords.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Tom is correct here. I never had true grand mal seizures until I had several years of soldering under my belt. I am known to smoke cigarettes in between connections, and would not recommend the practice (though I still do it!). I'm also not concluding that there is a direct connection, but be safe any way!<br></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size:10pt; color:black; font-family:verdana;"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Which solder is safer for home projects ?<br> From: "<a target="_blank" href="mailto:info@oldeblock.com">info@oldeblock.com</a>" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:info@oldeblock.com">info@oldeblock.com</a>><br> Date: Fri, October 23, 2015 11:11 am<br> To: Tom Bugs <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:admin@bugbrand.co.uk">admin@bugbrand.co.uk</a>><br> Cc: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a><br> <br> Just because someone is lucky enough to never have noticed effect from exposure doesn't mean you shouldn't take precautions. The effects of neurotoxins aren't always apparent and accumulate over long periods. Things like dementia/Alzheimer's are known to have links to metal and toxic vapor exposure. Let's not rule out genetic pre-disposition either. So why take a risk? Make sure your work area is well ventilated regardless of what product you use.<br> <br> I use a cheap bathroom fan with some 5$ coil ducting to pull the fumes out to a window and I must say my soldering work is much more pleasant than it used to be!<br> <br> Sent from my iPhone<br> <br> > On Oct 23, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Tom Bugs <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:admin@bugbrand.co.uk">admin@bugbrand.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> > Personally - Warton Metals Omega II Fast Flow 2% Flux Lead/Rosin Free Solder<br> > (not sure if available in US - I get here: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Warton-Metals-Omega-II-Fast-Flow-2-Flux-Lead-Rosin-Free-Solder-22SWG-500g-85-6196)">http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Warton-Metals-Omega-II-Fast-Flow-2-Flux-Lead-Rosin-Free-Solder-22SWG-500g-85-6196)</a><br> > <br> > Lead-free -- I have always used lead free solder (apart from old repairs), partly as it is required under RoHS legislation (can of worms about to be opened, no doubt).<br> > As to lead poisoning, I always thought that if you handled leaded solder you should wash your hands before eating/smoking etc.<br> > This Warton one flows very nicely at a normal soldering temperature (in comparison to the usual requirement of lead-free needing higher temps than leaded)<br> > <br> > Flux -- yes, that's the nasty stuff you'll breathe in - this one has 'nicer' flux, not based on pine oils, so meant to reduce the chance of asthma<br> > <br> > NoClean -- as it say, don't try to clean it! Without a lot of work you'll just end up with sticky gunk everywhere (even if you use, for example, Warton's specially formulated stuff for their own solder, then try further with IPA [the cleaning alcohol, not the beer!]). There is rarely any need to worry about cleaning in a non-production environment.<br> > <br> > <br> > Frankly, I wish people (US in particular) would finally get on board with lead-free - it is not f'ing scary.. It is annoying to get kits that are non-RoHS in this day & age. Many PCB houses are now making RoHS boards as standard and most components are RoHS as standard too (otherwise they'd miss out on a chunk of the market). Sure, a small guy can easily fly below the official RoHS radar, but that's not really the point.<br> > <br> >> On 23/10/2015 14:09, Michael Zacherl wrote:<br> >>> On 23.Oct 2015, at 14:50 , Roman Sowa <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:modular@go2.pl">modular@go2.pl</a>> wrote:<br> >>> <br> >>> Use no clean flux, avoid water soluble ones.<br> >> is there no cleaning at all with "no clean" solder or do you use e.g. isopropanol to rub off the board?<br> >> <br> >> --<br> >> <a target="_blank" href="http://mz.klingt.org">http://mz.klingt.org</a><br> >> <br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> Synth-diy mailing list<br> >> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a><br> >> <a target="_blank" href="http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy">http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br> > <br> > -- <br> > BugBrand LTD<br> > UK company No. 07199808<br> > VAT No. GB 988 2629 57<br> > 1 Ninetree Hill<br> > BRISTOL BS1 3SB<br> > United Kingdom<br> > <a target="_blank" href="http://www.bugbrand.co.uk">www.bugbrand.co.uk</a><br> > <br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Synth-diy mailing list<br> > <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a><br> > <a target="_blank" href="http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy">http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br> > <br> _______________________________________________<br> Synth-diy mailing list<br> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy">http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a><br> </div> </blockquote></span> </div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Synth-diy mailing list</span><br><span><a target="_blank" href="mailto:Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">Synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a></span><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy">http://dropmix.xs4all.nl/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy</a></span><br></div></blockquote>
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