<div>"The 'voltage controlled potentiometer' is one of the Holy Grails of s-diy<br>design. There<br>are so many ways to do it, and none of them is quite perfect."</div>
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<div>That reminds me of an idea to use a motorized pot. Electronic Goldmine has them for cheap but I keep forgetting to include it in my orders. Has anybody experimented in this area?</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/2/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">harrybissell</b> <<a href="mailto:harrybissell@prodigy.net">harrybissell@prodigy.net</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">john mahoney wrote: [censored]<br><br>> -Modding the ADSR is probably asking too much. However, there are VC Slew
<br>> Limiters. You could insert one of them at the ADSR's output, then you'd have<br>> VC decay/release; it would affect both decay and release times. Thing is,<br>> you need voltage control *and* independent up/down lag times (you only want
<br>> down, actually), and only MOTM seems to have that feature set. (Someone<br>> prove me wrong, please.)<br>><br>> The MOTM also has VC Bypass. You can run an inverted Gate signal into that,<br>> so the lag is bypassed on "note off", thus the Release will not be
<br>> affected -- only the Decay will. Tricky, eh? ;-) One more reason to like the<br>> MOTM: it allows VC of Attack time, too.<br>><br>> So, how do you make a voltage controlled slew limiter? I really want Harry's
<br>> Morph Lag<br>> (<a href="http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/schematics/Morph-Lag/Morph-Lag.gif">http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/schematics/Morph-Lag/Morph-Lag.gif</a>) with<br>> voltage control.<br><br>The MorphLag relies on the fact that a potentiometer can be used for a really
<br>good er... potentiometer.<br><br>It is VERY easy to make a lag that works with independant rise / fall times.<br>Check<br>out Jurgen Haible's VC_HADSR schematic. The core is very similar to the DBX<br>VCA core (Blackmer patent). You can just use the core and delete all the
<br>control<br>logic. This will have expo (log) response.<br><br>Another version with voltage control can be hoisted out of "Muffy III" hex<br>guitar<br>that is still (at last look) at <a href="http://www.wiseguysynth.com">
www.wiseguysynth.com</a> (the late Larry Hendry's<br>site -<br>may he be long remembered !). This uses a 3080 in a feedback loop and gets<br>linear response. It can be configured to be an attack-only delay... switch the
<br>diode polarity and it can be a 'decay only' delay as well.<br><br>On the ADSR issue, I'd be inclined to look at modifying the circuit by directly<br>influencing the main cap... maybe a VC reset circuit, or a way of switching in
<br>a new value of decay resistance. An analog switch, PWM'd really fast could<br>make the pot look like a different resistance.<br><br>> As for the filter, I believe that you can add VC resonance with a VCA.<br>> That's probably why it's not found on a lot of synths, because it's not
<br>> considered worth the cost of another VCA. Some filters require an inverted<br>> signal to be fed back, so you may need an inverting op amp, too.<br><br>On something slow like resonance (no need to move that really fast, you won't
<br>hear it)<br>a simple Vactrol is a good choice. I did one with two photocells, a copy of the<br><br>AN-20 "analog multiplier" from National Semiconductor app notes. Use an LED<br>instead<br>of the incandescent lamp. I made a VC resonance for the Aries filter using
<br>this... when I was 'noob' and did not have the chops to debug a VCA version.<br>The photocell method<br>has excellent signal handling, and ZERO offset voltage problems.<br><br>The 'voltage controlled potentiometer' is one of the Holy Grails of s-diy
<br>design. There<br>are so many ways to do it, and none of them is quite perfect.<br><br>H^) harry<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>