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Tim Parkhurst wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Well, I guess there's really no need to 'revive' the 3396 if there are over
3,000 of them floating around. ;) Glad to hear Paul S has a good stock. By
the way, I've bought more than a dozen chips from Paul, and the price /
service was great. And no, I'm not on the MOTM payroll.
Yes, the 3396 doesn't process external waves well, but that's not really
what it was designed for. Drive it with a simple square wave and it's pretty
happy. Set up properly, the 3396 offers a PWM square and a voltage
controlled Tri-Saw wave. I keep pointing to the Matrix 6 as a completely
stunning example of what can be done with the 3396. Yes, it's not all things
to all people, but you've got to admit it does an amazing amount of stuff
especially for its size and price (even when new). As far as the VCF is
concerned, yes it's just a standard 24dB low pass, but it definitely has
some 'guts.' Also, I've seen the tricks used in the Xpander to get a variety
of filter modes out of the 3372 (15 different modes with combinations of LP,
BP, Notch and All Pass), and I was wondering if the same circuitry could be
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It can be appllied to CEM3396 but then you can not use CEM3396's VCA.
Also the filter resonance <br>
became problematic. Because for 3 Poll lowpass filter it is neccesery
more feedback to oscilate(8 times) then 4Poll lowpass .<br>
For this reason CEM3396's filter may not oscilate at 3Poll
configuration(It's max feedback amount is less then 8)<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://matrix-12.tripod.com/xpsvc26.jpg">http://matrix-12.tripod.com/xpsvc26.jpg</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://matrix-12.tripod.com/xpsvc27.jpg">http://matrix-12.tripod.com/xpsvc27.jpg</a>
Anyway, this is probably all just a moot point anyway, but I suppose the
3320 or the 3372 would be the next on my 'wish list', followed closely by
one of the VCO chips. Is there really a big difference between the 3320 and
3372 VCFs? Just wondering since there are those who proclaim the 3320 as the
'best' Curtis VCF.
Cheers!
Tim (If nobody hears a cow, does it go 'moot'?) Servo
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein
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From: Harry Bissell Jr [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:harrybissell@prodigy.net">mailto:harrybissell@prodigy.net</a>]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:13 PM
To: Paul Schreiber; Tim Parkhurst; 'Rainer Buchty'; karl dalen
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl">synth-diy@dropmix.xs4all.nl</a>
Subject: Re: [sdiy] "Reviving" the CEM3396
HAH !!!
wide or skinny ??? :^P
Actually I'm playing with these chips and I think
there are more fun CEMs. The filter is pretty much
fixed internally (not as flexible as the CEM3320)...
The waveshapers are nice but basically they are
DCOs. The pulse width comparator has no hysteresis...
so if you try and run external waves through it... you
might get some static if you remain in the linear
region.
The mixing etc is pretty cool. But for a CEM slated
for resurrection, I'd chose some others
H^) harry
--- Paul Schreiber <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:synth1@airmail.net"><synth1@airmail.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">My picks for Curtis chips to resurrect would be
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<pre wrap="">(in order of potential
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<pre wrap="">usefulness): 3396 (waveshaper/VCF/VCA), 3372
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<pre wrap="">(VCF/VCA) and 3374 (dual VCO).
Well, I have over 450 in stock for shipment, and
know where 3000 more are :)
Paul S.
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