<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 4/25/2001 2:43:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
<BR>john.l.marshall@gte.net writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The generator-motor approach solves the gear shifting problem. Kenworth
<BR>trucks have up to 16 forward gears to start rolling and then get up to
<BR>speed. Imagine the gear box for three locomotives that are pulling a hundred
<BR>cars!
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<BR>> throughout this thread, I've been wondering why locomotive engines in
<BR>> america don't do this... (regenerative braking). AFAIK, even though
<BR>> trains are diesel in america, the diesel powers generators and the
<BR>> locomotion is created by big electric motors (don't ask me why!), so
<BR>> it makes sense to me to use regenerative braking, unless of course,
<BR>> there aren't any batteries, just the generators to the motors (through
<BR>> a controller or two no doubt)
<BR>> -ben
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<BR>(I'm sort of beating a dead iron horse to death on this). Another way of
<BR>looking at it is that an electric motor provides tremendous torque from a
<BR>dead stop. It wants to turn in a big way when power is applied, or it will
<BR>dissipate the energy as heat. Piston driven motors physically can't run when
<BR>they're not turning, so there's no torque available. They have to be running
<BR>at some higher speed to generate torque. That's the main reason the
<BR>horsepower of a diesel is converted to electricity for electric motor torque
<BR>in locomotives. You need torque to pull the tremendous weights, and you need
<BR>it from standstill. Notice when you hear a diesel train engine, it's rumbling
<BR>at about the same RPM all the time? That's horsepower available to generate
<BR>current for electric motors, regardless of train motion. The diesel generator
<BR>eliminates the need for the overhead lines (or powered rails in a subway
<BR>engine).
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<BR>There's a CSX railroad shop near me that rebuilds both the diesel engines and
<BR>electric motors. Pistons almost the size of 5 gallon buckets, and the motor
<BR>armatures are bigger than 55 gallon drums! Pretty impressive stuff.
<BR>-Karl.</FONT></HTML>