[sdiy] Lockout / DRM chips?
cheater cheater
cheater00social at gmail.com
Thu Sep 10 06:23:49 CEST 2026
For now, I get that a lot of people are curious as to whether and
whence, but I'm specifically looking for advice on the utilization of
lockout chips, from people who have used lockout chips in their
designs. Can we please stick to that. Thanks. I am also specifically
asking to stop any conversation in this thread about the practical
implications for users, or your experiences in using devices that had
lockout chips in them, or the market economics, or general pop-infosec
advice and opinions. But feel free to start your own thread, which
I'll be glad to participate in! This list is for everyone. In fact I
wrote a bunch of replies to the messages posted above but I decided to
delete them to not derail this thread further.
Rainer,
Why do you think PUFs would not work in this situation?
Do you know of inexpensive chips that contain PUFs and are not compromised?
Thanks
On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 1:02 AM David Kantowitz via Synth-diy
<synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
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> On Wed, Sep 9, 2026 at 3:19 PM John <commodorejohn at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, 9 Sep 2026 15:00:52 -0700
>> David Kantowitz via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
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>> > This approach seems far more appealing: provide increased value to
>> > the user for staying inside the garden.
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>> > DRM itself suddenly becomes useful
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>> How d'ya figure!? You can just as easily argue that you're punishing
>> the user for *leaving* the garden.
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> DRM certainly *is* punishing the user for leaving. It's creating technical and legal mechanisms to limit my choice as a user.
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> It also makes it illegal for other manufacturers to deploy an unauthorized workaround to the DRM mechanisms.
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