[sdiy] Sampler with tape dump?

[Andrei Kudryavtsev]

It doesn't need to be a vintage sampler :) . Teenage Engineering
implemented that on PO-33 and PO-35.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 12:10 AM Mattias Rickardsson <mr at analogue.org> wrote:

> Thanks all for the examples and discussion. I'm not much into old samplers
> and never expected that quite a lot of instruments used this "detour
> solution" after all! :-)
>
> Since the tape dump of an audio snippet sample creates an audio snippet
> that takes much MORE time than the original audio snippet, I find it
> bizarre/amusing. The trivial alternative would of course be to save the
> original audio snippet on audio tape instead, without going via the digital
> data encoding. The tape dump method is of course much "better" since it's
> lossless, and also might have needed less expensive/messy hardware
> solutions back in the day.
>
> All this is somewhat similar (but opposite!) to recording chiptune music
> or even other MIDI-sequenced music where all the generative data is
> available in a much much smaller amount of information than the resulting
> audio recording... that we might even compress to mp3 etc. And it might
> have been travelling via the analog realm and back along the way. Here it's
> the opposite though: The extremely compact original generative
> sequencer/synthesis data is the lossless way of encoding it, while the huge
> audio recording is the lossy one.  :-)
>
> Btw, the following additional 4 examples of tape-dump samplers appeared
> off-list, it seems:
>
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 at 01:48, min struct <min.struct at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> E-mu SP12 memory's segments, songs and user sounds, and allows to save
>> all the data to tape or disc.
>> Cassette dump is reportedly very slow (data can also be saved to disc if
>> one has a Commodore 64 computer with disc drive)
>>
>> Le jeu. 8 août 2024 à 01:42, min struct <min.struct at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> CASIO RZ-1 covered Tape Load and Save for patterns and *samples*
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 8 août 2024 à 01:33, min struct <min.struct at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> RSF SD140 Sampling Drum Machine
>>>>  offers 14 user sampling memories of various lengths, *sample
>>>> dump-to-tape* (or via MIDI to a computer or other data recorder)
>>>>
>>>> Le jeu. 8 août 2024 à 01:29, min struct <min.struct at gmail.com> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> AKAI S1000 digital output was designed for backing up the memory (or
>>>>> the hard disk) to DAT.
>>>>> audio part of the sample was simply ... digital audio, and sample
>>>>> parameters were coded like software on cassette by computers...
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mer. 7 août 2024 à 23:22, Mattias Rickardsson <mr at analogue.org> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> After some cassette backup discussions, a silly idea came up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Old synths often had tape dump as a means of backing up sounds.
>>>>>> Nowadays it's easier to use a sampler or computer than a cassette
>>>>>> tape, since it's just audio.
>>>>>> Sooo... turning this on its head:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Were there ever any old sampler that would let you store sample data
>>>>>> as a tape dump? (-:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /mr
>>>>>>
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