[sdiy] Who apart from me things the whole MIDI board needs replacing ?
tom at electricdruid.net
Wed Jan 26 15:26:17 CET 2022
So does the 3.5mm TRS MIDI not-Standard connect the ground of the TRS lead at both ends, or only one like DIN MIDI? And does it use opto-isolation in the same way?
If so, it's basically just a change of connector for something of a smaller size and I don't see any problem with it. If the good features of the original standard also got dropped in the change, that seems like a somewhat retrogressive step.
While I can see that if everyone was using 3.5mm perhaps it made sense for the standard to reflect that, 3.5mm is alos used for audio input/output on a gazillion devices and people are absolutely bound to try connecting it, just to see if it works. 2.5mm is less common and prevents that to some extent.
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> On 26 Jan 2022, at 14:11, Quincas Moreira via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
> Matias, the Tukra by Tesseract does the same. Works with both standards for the input and has selectable output.
> I appreciate the nostalgic love for Din connectors but they seriously limit the size and shape of the devices. I like how things are skinny these days… And yes, while the standard chose a smaller barrel, this was indeed done too late when already all manufacturers are using 3.5mm. They should have stuck to that and just chosen one polarity to be the standard IMO.
> BTW I’ve been using 3.5mm trs MIDI for nearly a decade myself and have never encountered a ground loop issue.
> On Wed 26 Jan 2022 at 4:57 Mattias Rickardsson <mr at analogue.org <mailto:mr at analogue.org>> wrote:
> <grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com <mailto:grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com>> skrev:
> Hey, it only took them a decade or so to include a messed up standard for 1/8" TRS connectors.
> But the MIDI standard for TRS jacks ended up using 2.5 mm jacks, not 3.5 mm (1/8"). Just to avoid confusion. (-:
> 3.5 mm was already the de-facto standard by then. But half of the manufacturers ended up using one polarity and the other half chose the other, which potentially makes MIDI devices incompatible, unless special cables/adapters are at hand.
> In Elektron's Model series of instruments we implemented the TRS MIDI In to accept any polarity (passively, using diodes!), and a setting in the UI chooses between the two polarities for the TRS MIDI Out. Has this been done anywhere else? I've always felt that it perhaps should be published as an official application note, a suggested implementation superpower for other manufacturers to pick up. :-)
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