[sdiy] Looking for a specific sample-player/expander IC/module
mars at pingdynasty.com
Sun Jan 9 21:15:15 CET 2022
I wonder what products these devices are used in.
Seems you can buy modules with Dream chips from a place called
though some of them say this:
"WARNING: This product may not be installed in any musical instrument.
Using this product in the manufacture of musical instruments or selling
this product for use in a musical instrument is a violation of the
intellectual property rights of Roland Corporation and will result in
liability for infringement."
They also have a parallel port, OPL3 FM synthesizer soundcard, lol! I
guess they're made for retro gaming?
On 09/01/2022 13:33, Steve Lenham wrote:
> You can theoretically buy the Dream ICs and associated development
> boards from distributor Profusion in the UK:
> However, none of them can be ordered online (unlike the rest of
> Profusion's offerings) and instead one is invited to contact them
> directly. Perhaps I'm wrong, but this says to me that there are hidden
> criteria that must be met before one will be allowed to buy Dream
> This plus the fact that, despite being around in some form since at
> least 1990 (the Evolution EVS1, released that year, was based around a
> SAMxxxx IC, and the SAM8905 appears in Barry Klein's Music IC
> Datasheet book), they have a profile lower than a snake's belly,
> indicates that they know very well who they want to deal with, that
> they are already dealing with them and that everyone else can take a hike.
> Of course, if your products are good enough then you earn the right to
> do what you please...
> Steve L.
> On 08/01/2022 18:34, Blender via Synth-diy wrote:
>> thanks everybody, OF COURSE i finally found it myself 5 minutes after
>> sending this email out... its DREAMs SAM chips from france. I also
>> finally found some old emails i tried sending them, without any
>> response. and it still is really hard to find any kind of information
>> or even shops for these chips, eve though i am pretty sure they are
>> being used in quite a lot of commercial products. looks like ATMEL
>> might have bought the company in the meantime? or at least they also
>> offer similar series of SAM-named synthesis SOCs. i reached out via
>> email (for the third time over 2 years...) to see if they respond.
>> but yeah, thanks for your guys input as well, consider this case
>> close - /unless/ someon has experience with those chips and is
>> willing to share some information
>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 6:02 PM MTG <grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com>
>> This is NOT the chip you are looking for, but in the interest of
>> this rompler to the mailing list archives I give you an OLD chip:
>> SGS Thomson M114S Digital Sound Generator
>> On 1/8/2022 8:46 AM, Blender via Synth-diy wrote:
>> > Hello fellow builders,
>> > 1-2 years ago i discovered this chip (or was it a pcb module?)
>> by a
>> > specialized manufacturer that allowed for rather complex sample
>> > playback (ie. with multi-sampling, envelopes etc etc) that came
>> > quite a big integrated memory (at least 4gb and 8gb options iirc).
>> > Now, my degrading brain unfortunately forgot the name of the
>> > and i also fail to find anything in my browser histories...
>> spent a
>> > few hours today trying to google it to no success.
>> > i am pretty sure the same or at least a similar chip is used in
>> > v3sound expander modules:
>> > https://www.v3sound.com/de/d-produkt-sonority-xxl.html
>> > on my search today i came across https://www.vlsi.fi which is
>> > but not it. i do think to remember that the company had an "f" in
>> > their name, maybe "fun" or "cool"? obviously its not coolaudio
>> > pretty sure i was on the (chinese?) OEM manufacturer site at
>> some point.
>> > does anybody have a clue?
>> > best,
>> > philip
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