[sdiy] Special tools for SMT

Sat Feb 12 22:24:08 CET 2022

That's not an argument against having more safety. It can only be an
argument against safety if you believe the analogous "seat belts kill
people" BS. When car manufacturers were required to add seat belts,
they launched a huge media campaign hammering into people's heads
saying that seat belts will make people drive faster and therefore
have more serious accidents resulting in more deaths. Similarly one
could say VDE screwdrivers cause more electrocutions. Both of those
arguments are stupid. But I understand you're not saying that, you're
just saying that you still need to remember the good rules. I agree
they're indispensable, but having safe tools is even more important.

On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 5:22 PM Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
<chromatest at azburners.org> wrote:
>
> Until you're over at your mates place and you don't have your special screwdrivers with you.  I'm not saying to *not* have safe tools, but to practice all of the safety measures working on mains voltages.
>
> I used to tune FM transmitters running ~20,000 watts at ~6,000 volts.  A couple steps require the power to be on, and your hand inside the cabinet turning a pot.  No tools involved, just your bare hand.  With that kind of work, you very quickly learn important stuff. Such as, standing (or kneeling) in a comfortable position, with both feet under you.  So you don't slip and grab or brush something.
>
> Now this thread is fully off the rails!  (hehe)
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 5:12 AM cheater cheater <cheater00social at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's not even that. During the accident I described above, I was
>> trying to grab the mains cable off a broken power strip, and it turned
>> out it was plugged in by mistake. And I know the one hand rule and I
>> forgot it. And also the GFCI failed to shut off because it was old.
>> And I wasn't wearing rubber sole shoes. You can know all the rules but
>> every once in a while it will all fail you anyways. That's why
>> safeties that you don't have to /remember/ about, like having
>> exclusively plastic-covered screwdrivers, are way better than rules,
>> such as "out of all screwdrivers you have, use plastic-covered
>> screwdrivers when working on mains".
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 1:24 AM Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
>> <chromatest at azburners.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Or never work on an energized panel.
>> >
>> > If you do, put one hand in your back pocket.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 9:38 AM cheater cheater via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to urge everyone to use VDE tools only. I've had a near miss
>> >> with mains a couple years back and the only reason I lived to tell the
>> >> tale was because at some point I decided to buy VDE screwdrivers
>> >> instead of "normal" ones. I did that a good more than 10 years before
>> >> the accident. The screwdriver being VDE meant that the electrical
>> >> current went through part of my finger creating no lasting damage
>> >> instead of going from one hand to another and through my heart. You
>> >> never know when it'll try and hit you, and as people who work with
>> >> electricity that is mostly at harmless voltages, we are especially
>> >> prone to get complacent when working with electrical circuits. That's
>> >> why it's good to use all VDE tools, even use precision tools that are
>> >> VDE. One day you'll be happy you did. You have to help your luck a
>> >> little. Wera have some really wonderful swappable-shaft small-size
>> >> screwdrivers that are VDE and where the shaft is not thicker due to
>> >> the insulation. They're very practical and are very high quality. As
>> >> for tools you can't get as VDE, consider just putting some heat shrink
>> >> insulation over the screwdriver shaft or whatever metal handle you're
>> >> using. That's the part that helps most.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 12:45 PM francesco mulassano via Synth-diy
>> >> <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The best wire and components cutter for the last 20 years
>> >> > PIERGIACOMI!
>> >> >
>> >> > https://www.tme.eu/it/details/tre-03-ne/pinze-da-trancio/piergiacomi/tre-03-nb/?brutto=1&currency=EUR
>> >> >
>> >> > Il giorno ven 11 feb 2022 alle ore 12:03 mark verbos via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> ha scritto:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And I thought the 4ms screwdriver was the gold standard…. ;)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Feb 10, 2022, at 7:48 PM, Peter Pearson <electrocontinuo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think my favorite, or at least most used tool, is an Xcelite R3322 screwdriver.  Couldn't live without one.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 5:23 AM mark verbos via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Electrician’s Scissors can cut very thick stuff, strip, deburr and more. 8 years ago or something Paul Schreiber said the best wire cutters are Erem 522N, I couldn’t believe they were $55 (now even more expensive!) but curiosity got the best of me. Now I’m addicted to them. After destroying several pairs cutting apart sliders that I needed to remove or cutting 1/8” pot shafts, I have found a more robust, flexible, tool to have in my pocket and snip at anything that comes my way. And they’re $14.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Mark
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 9:41 PM, grant musictechnologiesgroup.com <grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Sorry, what was the deal with scissors? I don't see what function they serve (in the tech area or, gasp, kitchen).  Now screw-pliers I actually use.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> GB
>> >> >>>
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