[sdiy] Ray tracing hardware for audio simulation

[Mike Bryant]

You can't put too much of the singer on the wedges as this leads to feedback, especially with those prone to not standing still - this was much easier to reduce in the old days as you taped the stand and cable to the floor :-)   
But nobody else needs to hear much of what the singer is doing.  Have a watch of Led Zep's film The Song Remains the Same where the soundtrack is that from the monitor mixer, not the FOH one, and you hear a whole different world which is very confusing to most people.

Some singers don't mind this not hearing themselves, and indeed still don't even with in-ear.  But some people use the in-ear to give them that particular vocal sound you can only produce when you hear yourself.
Have a look at for example Michael Stripe of R.E.M. and you'll often see him with his finger in the other ear so he can hear just the in-ear, or sometimes with an IEM in both ears.
Annie Haslam of Renaissance was another who well before IEM, used all sorts of ways to hear herself by leaning forward and cupping a hand to her ear, and did try a small loudspeaker on a stand next to her with just her voice in together with an early feedback suppressor.



-----Original Message-----
From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf Of rburnett at richieburnett.co.uk
Sent: 02 August 2022 15:00
To: Guy McCusker
Cc: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Ray tracing hardware for audio simulation

> ...It seems plausible that
> hearing your own voice piped straight into your ears on a short delay 
> would feel unsettling at the very least.

But isn't this precisely what happens with foldback wedges on the stage in front of a vocalist?  (Even with no electrical delay the wedge monitors are still several feet from the singer so there will be milliseconds of delay.)

Or is there non of the singer's microphone mixed into their own wedge monitor speaker?

Sorry if my ignorance of live sound production is showing me up here!

-Richie,

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