[sdiy] Does anyone here use JLCPCB for SMD assembly ?

[cheater cheater]

I looked at JM's website and my brain just melted. And it's not a language
barrier.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 12:24 PM Mike Bryant <mbryant at futurehorizons.com>
wrote:

> Well I just picked one at random and immediately hit the fundamental
> problem with European manufacturing.
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> "We constantly work at least two shifts, often 6 days a week."
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> Chinese companies work 24/7, so a product moves through the factory at a
> constant rate with no stops, except at the three annual holiday periods
> when all maintenance is performed.  You can see this from the times on my
> latest PCB as shown below.  The product flows through smoothly.
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> As it takes the same time to fly something from China to Heathrow as from
> anywhere in Europe, with a product that takes say 2 weeks to go through
> from order to delivery, you’ve got to add over a week extra at a European
> plant, which is time lost on a product schedule.
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> I remember having this discussion with a UK blank PCB manufacturer over 20
> years ago.  They were reasonably priced for full production on a planned 4
> week delivery and we ordered vast areas from them, but for prototype and
> pilot runs they added huge (>400%) markups to supply PCBs on 3-7 days.  I
> queried this and was told they did prototypes ‘out of hours’ so had to pay
> people overtime to do it.  So I ordered from China, far more difficult and
> unusual to do back then, and it arrived 10 days later.
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> · MI
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> 2021-10-25 16:07:04
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> ·  [image: Description: https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/after_icon.svg]
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> Inner Layer [image: Description:
> https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/play_icon.svg]
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> 2021-10-26 03:38:20
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> ·  [image: Description: https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/after_icon.svg]
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> Lamination [image: Description:
> https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/play_icon.svg]
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> 2021-10-26 11:44:04
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> ·  [image: Description: https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/after_icon.svg]
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> Drilling [image: Description: https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/play_icon.svg]
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> 2021-10-26 16:58:11
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> ·  [image: Description: https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/after_icon.svg]
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> Copper Deposition [image: Description:
> https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/play_icon.svg]
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> 2021-10-27 04:00:02
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> ·  [image: Description: https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/after_icon.svg]
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> Image the outer layers [image: Description:
> https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/play_icon.svg]
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> 2021-10-28 08:05:02
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> ·  [image: Description: https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/after_icon.svg]
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> Pattern Plating [image: Description:
> https://jlcpcb.com/client/svg/play_icon.svg]
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> 2021-10-28 10:59:02
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roman Sowa [mailto:modular at go2.pl]
> Sent: 28 October 2021 10:45
> To: Mike Bryant; synth-diy at synth-diy.org
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Does anyone here use JLCPCB for SMD assembly ?
>
>
>
> Here's a short list I made for a friend from UK who complained their local
> service in that are is terrible:
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> At one time when I was selecting manufacturing parter, I wanted JM to be
> the one. They seem to be super quality, and not that far from my place.
>
> Back then they said that 100 of something with around 50 components is
> absolutely something they would love to do. But this may have changed.
>
>
>
> https://elzab-manufacturing.com
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> https://en.elhurt.com/electronics-manufacturing-services/electronics-assembly/
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> https://printor.pl/en/
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> https://www.sims.pl/en/
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> https://ente.com.pl/en/contract-manufacturing-of-electronics-ems/
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> https://www.jm-ems.pl/offer,66.html
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> https://www.eae-elektronik.pl/en/
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> https://www.prototypy.com/t/61,Home
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> Strangely enough I do all assembly in-house, so can't really share any
> first hand experience with those.
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> There was an article some time ago in industry magazine here about EMS,
> where they included a few of the companies. There was a chart with about
>
> 70 companies showing who does what. It's in jpg so you have to type all
> the links and in Polish, so if anyone is brave enough to try, I can share
> it.
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>
> Roman
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> W dniu 2021-10-27 o 16:48, Mike Bryant pisze:
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> > Always willing to consider anything advantageous to my bottom line.  Can
> we have some links to potential PCB manufacture and assembly houses and
> I'll investigate ?
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf Of
>
> > Roman Sowa
>
> > Sent: 27 October 2021 15:37
>
> > To: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
>
> > Subject: Re: [sdiy] Does anyone here use JLCPCB for SMD assembly ?
>
> >
>
> > Have anyone considered ordering assembly in Poland?
>
> > We have lots of places doing all sort of things from designing circuit
> to shipping final products in foiled colorful box to end customers and
> everything in between. Couple of years ago it was advertized as "Chinese
> prices, European quality".
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> >
>
> > Roman
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> >
>
> > W dniu 2021-10-27 o 16:06, Neil Johnson via Synth-diy pisze:
>
> >> Hi Mike,
>
> >>
>
> >>> When SMD assembly was a new service at JLCPCB there were obviously
> teething problems.  For example parts shown as rotated online and so on but
> the PCBs always came back fine as they spent time fixing everything.
>
> >>
>
> >> Have you tried PCBWay?  I know they are used by several instrument
>
> >> manufacturers.
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> >>
>
> >> Neil
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