[sdiy] DIP LM13700 discontinuation

Roman Sowa modular at go2.pl
Thu May 20 22:17:01 CEST 2021


I remember the time I first saw SOIC package, it was uA741 that 
accidently became available in local electronics store. It looked so 
cute! But it was the only chip in SMD out there. Normally I would cut 
the leads of DIP parts and solder them as SMT, but this little fellow 
was amazingly small.
Today, about 30 years later, the oposite happens - it's much more 
difficult to find needed part in DIP rather than 10 versions of SMD.

Think about people being born today, what will they do in their 20's? 
Will there be any synth diy movement at all? Hard to say, but if there 
will be, those people will probably not even know what a DIP is, and 
SOIC will be considered as "huge and bulky".

Roman

W dniu 2021-05-20 o 20:15, mskala at ansuz.sooke.bc.ca pisze:
> On Thu, 20 May 2021, Mike Beauchamp wrote:
>> Can anyone comment on what cancelling the DIP package might mean to the SMT
>> version in the near future? I wonder if they are no longer producing the
>> actual die, or just not bothering to put it in a DIP package?
> Everything ends eventually.  Small analog functions like OTAs in general
> may be on borrowed time.  Also, there's been talk in this thread of how
> SOICs are no harder to hand-solder than DIPs; even if we agree on that,
> SOICs will not remain available forever either.  To a first approximation,
> nobody builds electronics by hand anymore.  Those of us right here who
> actually do, are way below the noise floor of an outfit like Texas
> Instruments.  And the consequence is that some day the only chips
> available will be chips that only robots can work with.
>
> But the product change notice for this says it's because they're
> discontinuing the "die attach" used by the LM13700N at a particular
> factory - and lists a few other DIP products that don't seem to be closely
> related except that they also use that particular process at that factory.
> So I don't think it's an issue of TI wanting to stop making the LM13700
> silicon more generally, nor even all DIPs in general - it's just one
> production process at one factory that they want to shut down.  The DIP
> LM13700N just happens to be a product affected by that decision.  I don't
> think it brings the death of the SOIC version any closer; it might even
> extend the lifetime of the SOIC version if a lot of people who were buying
> the DIP version end up switching to the SOIC version and boosting that
> product's sales.
>




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