[sdiy] Differential amps and noise cancellation in dsPIC 33FJ128GP802 uP's DAC

[Vinicius Brazil]

Hi Tom,
I tried several schemes with 802 but unfortunately I did not reach a
satisfactory result in DAC, considering that it is 16 bits. If it reached a
noise ratio of around 12 ~ 13 bits, it would already suit my application.
And the worst thing is that I have more than 100 parts in stock waiting for
a solution to the problem.
I will test your suggestion, thanks.

Vinicius Brazil
www.vbrazilsystems.com

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On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:20 AM Tom Wiltshire <tom at electricdruid.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The dsPIC 33FJ128GP802 uP (and others in the family) includes a 16-bit DAC
> on the chip. The outputs from the DAC are provided as a differential output
> to help cancel any noise generated by the uP internally. NOt a bad idea,
> seeing as that is probably inevitable. Despite this precaution, the DAC is
> reasonably noisy and not suitable for all applications.
>
> The example circuit for combining the differential outputs is shown
> attached - a simple diff amp with 10K resistors everywhere.
>
> Now, my question is this:
>
> If I change the gain of the differential amp by increasing R6/R8 (to 47K,
> say) does this affect the noise cancellation properties of the diff amp?
>
> It seems to me that it might, because the positive input now has a
> different proportion of signal going to it than the negative input.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
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