[sdiy] 90-degree phase displacement network calculations
Ian Fritz
ijfritz at comcast.net
Wed Jan 13 21:24:11 CET 2021
In a note re the Orchard paper, Johannesson presented a modification
that does not require the "repeated Landen transformations". It uses
just a few terms from expansions. He says his numerical results for the
Orchard example agree with the original.
https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Experimental-Wireless/50s/Wireless-Engineer-1950-08-09.pdf
Thanks to Bernie for including this reference in his early article.
Ian
On 1/12/2021 8:28 PM, David G Dixon wrote:
> -- I understand what you did and for the third time state that there
> is nothing wrong with what you did.
>
> I already knew that, Bernie. I wasn't seeking your approval. I was
> just presenting a technique for everyone to use as they wish.
>
> -- But you have avoided my repeated questions about what the error
> plot looks like if you do fewer iterations. [ Neither have you commented
> your program or (despite saying there were several errors along the way)
> provided a full corrected copy. ]
>
> OK, I'll say it one more time: There are no iterations. If one does not
> take the necessary number of steps to complete the Landen
> transformation, then one gets inaccurate numbers for the elliptic sine
> and cosine. I see no purpose to calculating anything if the elliptic
> functions are not accurately calculated. Once the necessary elliptic
> functions are calculated, then the pole values are calculated simply
> from those.
>
> To do what you request would be like calculating a trigonometric
> function with sines and cosines, but instead of actually using those
> functions, using series expansions truncated at the third step. Why
> would anyone do that?
>
> Orchard presents an equation to calculate the maximum error in the phase
> angle directly. However, it does not seem to give the correct answer.
> For phase angle, I am calculating it directly from the RC factors of the
> filter, and summing up the total phase angle for all stages in each
> chain, then subtracting one phase angle from the other. I have
> benchmarked my results against the QuadNet program, and the two results
> are identical. The equation in Orchard dramatically underestimates
> the maximum error. For example, a 16-stage PDN with a bandwidth of 4
> decades will generate a maximum phase error of 0.133 degrees. The
> Orchard equation gives 0.066 degrees. With a bandwidth of 5 decades the
> maximum error increases to about 0.5 degrees. The Orchard equation
> gives 0.116 degrees. So, that's a fail. It bears noting that the
> equation given in Darlington for this purpose is different, so the old
> guard were not all on the same page, evidently.
>
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