[sdiy] 90-degree phase displacement network calculations
Ian Fritz
ijfritz at comcast.net
Tue Jan 12 02:54:07 CET 2021
Hello Bernie et al --
I just remembered that the old Bell technical papers are free online.
Here is the link to the Darlington paper:
https://archive.org/details/bstj29-1-94
Ian
On 1/9/2021 9:44 PM, Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr wrote:
> David - what you show as the Landen transform (in the box) is EXACTLY
> called iteration............! - Bernie
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* David G Dixon <dixon at mail.ubc.ca>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 9, 2021 8:16 PM
> *To:* Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr <bah13 at cornell.edu>;
> synth-diy at synth-diy.org <synth-diy at synth-diy.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [sdiy] 90-degree phase displacement network calculations
> Hello Bernie,
> No, it is not iterative. It is closed form. The step-wise procedure is
> an implementation of the Landen transformation to enable calculation of
> elliptic sine from circular sine. That is all. If Excel had a function
> call for elliptic sine, I would use that instead. Once the elliptic
> sine is calculated the poles are obtained directly. Once half the poles
> are obtained, then you just take the logarithms, set them negative, and
> take the antilogs to find the other half.
> The reason for the steps is that you must transform the k and k' values
> using a simple formula until you obtain k = 0 and k' = 1. At that
> point, sn = sin, so you can simply find the sines of the angles
> (2n-1)*(pi/2)/4N and take those as the elliptic sines. Then, you go
> back up the chain of k and k' values, calculating the elliptic sines
> from those below (of which the first one, on the bottom of the table, is
> a circular sine). When you get to the top of the table, you have an
> elliptic sine at the desired modulus. This is then used to calculate
> the pole directly.
> To make this more plain, here is a table showing the calculations in Excel.
> 4N 32 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15
> i k k' sn(π/64) sn(3π/64) sn(5π/64) sn(7π/64) sn(9π/64)
> sn(11π/64) sn(13π/64) sn(15π/64)
> 0 — *0.000100* *0.319549* *0.758823* *0.929639* *0.980794*
> *0.994857* *0.998630* *0.999635* *0.999903*
> 1 0.999800 0.019998 0.164092 0.459577 0.679394 0.820798
> 0.903443 0.949062 0.973452 0.986269
> 2 0.960788 0.277283 0.084258 0.248264 0.399666 0.532763
> 0.644823 0.735785 0.807437 0.862536
> 3 0.565823 0.824527 0.053899 0.160873 0.265418 0.366039
> 0.461422 0.550469 0.632324 0.706368
> 4 0.096175 0.995364 0.049181 0.147064 0.243512 0.337584
> 0.428367 0.514981 0.596592 0.672415
> 5 0.002323 0.999997 0.049068 0.146731 0.242980 0.336890
> 0.427556 0.514103 0.595700 0.671559
> 6 0.000001 1.000000 0.049068 0.146730 0.242980 0.336890
> 0.427555 0.514103 0.595699 0.671559
> 7 0.000000 1.000000 0.049068 0.146730 0.242980 0.336890
> 0.427555 0.514103 0.595699 0.671559
> 8 0.000000 1.000000 *0.049068* *0.146730* *0.242980* *0.336890*
> *0.427555* *0.514103* *0.595699* *0.671559*
> ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **
> ** omega *sn* 0.319549 0.758823 0.929639 0.980794 0.994857
> 0.998630 0.999635 0.999903
> 100.000000 *cn* 0.947570 0.651297 0.368472 0.195047 0.101294
> 0.052333 0.027000 0.013925
> *pole* 296.533 85.830 39.636 19.887 10.182 5.240 2.701 1.393
> f *log pole* 2.472074 1.933639 1.598090 1.298561 1.007822
> 0.719369 0.431521 0.143830
> 628.318531 *−log pole* -2.472074 -1.933639 -1.598090 -1.298561
> -1.007822 -0.719369 -0.431521 -0.143830
> *−pole* 0.003372 0.011651 0.025230 0.050285 0.098215 0.190823
> 0.370236 0.718076
> *RC* *0.471948* *0.136603* *0.063083* *0.031651* *0.016205*
> *0.008340* *0.004299* *0.002216*
> ** ** *0.000005* *0.000019* *0.000040* *0.000080* *0.000156*
> *0.000304* *0.000589* *0.001143*
>
> So, you see, there is no iteration. You simply have to transform k'
> until it equals 1. I have determined that this always occurs within 8
> steps, as shown. Here it actually occurred in 6 steps, and the
> calculated sn values were equal to the sine value until i = 4 to six
> decimal places.
> The calculation for "p" is closed-form, but there is no more convenient
> way to calculate elliptic sines.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Bernard Arthur Hutchins, Jr [mailto:bah13 at cornell.edu]
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 09, 2021 1:35 PM
> *To:* synth-diy at synth-diy.org
> *Cc:* David G Dixon
> *Subject:* [sdiy] 90-degree phase displacement network calculations
>
> [*CAUTION:* Non-UBC Email]
>
> Thanks again David –
>
> I see. Your function is NOT closed form – it is iterative;
> self-terminating at 8 “for loops” – absolutely NOTHING wrong with that.
>
> In equiripple designs we have the powerful “alternation theorem” to tell
> us WHEN we have “found” an acceptable ER solution (at least - close
> enough). At the same time, the mathematicians assure us (prove!) that we
> will never find closed form!(Don’t you hate it when you are shown that
> they are right?)
>
> What happens (if you know) if you terminate after just a couple of
> iterations? That is: How does convergence progress?
>
> -Bernie
>
>
>
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