[sdiy] DIY mixer/console

Mike Bryant mbryant at futurehorizons.com
Wed Dec 1 12:49:32 CET 2021


Quite a lot of mixers get stripped down for spares to keep others of the same design going a little longer.   The cards at the far ends of the mixer often get less use and so are often in pretty good condition.  It also helps if those channels haven’t had someone without basic soldering skills doing ‘preventative recapping’ of every electrolytic, when most of them still have decades of life in them.

But in the end some use faders that are no longer available or easily substituted, especially some of the earlier motorised fader designs.  Even some pots have long since obsoleted footprints.

And of course some mixers deserved to be junked even when new :-)

I believe the MCI500 of Bohemian Rhapsody fame may still be in the Quadrangle studio at Rockfield.


From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf Of Tom Wiltshire
Sent: 01 December 2021 11:29
To: mark verbos
Cc: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
Subject: Re: [sdiy] DIY mixer/console

Big old analogue desks are going for peanuts unless they’re something *really* famous - like “this desk recorded Bohemian Rhapsody” famous!

A friend of mine picked up a similar 40 channel Soundcraft studio desk from a university music dept. for a pittance. No-one else wanted something the size of a table. Even he didn’t keep it for long though. I don’t know what he did with it. I bet dozens have been junked.



On 1 Dec 2021, at 11:14, mark verbos via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org<mailto:synth-diy at synth-diy.org>> wrote:

I worked with Zähl on the CV channel for thew AM-1 (presumably the incredible design from Germany mentioned below). Michael designed the custom mixers that were in the studios of Can and Conny Plank. He is extremely careful with noise and crosstalk. H wouldn’t allow me to use any digital clocking in the CV parts of the channel. Although not as expensive as an SSL or Neve, the Zähl is “price no object” by today’s standards and has taught me how a mixer becomes €50,000.

That said, I bought a used 40 channel Soundcraft Vienna for €800. That is a large format front of house live board from the 90’s. It has 8 sends, 8 busses, VCA groups, mute groups, balanced in/out, inserts on every channel NOT on send/receive jacks, sweepable hipass filter on each channel, serious 4 band semi perimetric EQ,  fuil meterbridge built in. It was about €30,000 when new. But, it weighs about 150kg and uses an entire power circuit for itself, heating the room when on.


maybe buying a mixer frame empty and making your own channels or buying something like I have and making your own replacement channels could work for you. Here in Germany I see Studer frames available empty all the time.

Mark





On Dec 1, 2021, at 4:03 AM, Todd Sines <sines_list at scale.la<mailto:sines_list at scale.la>> wrote:

I made the mistake of dumping a useful and robust 14 channel Soundcraft signature MTK mixer (that I paid $300 for) which had built-in internal effects, parametric Mids and 2-3 FX Sends, as well as functioned as an audio interface, only to shrink the footprint by 1/4 the size with a Befaco HexMix & expander, which almost cost 2-3x the price.

It would be an interesting prospect, but with the needs people have, you are far better putting your energy elsewhere it seems. There are new boutique mixers on the market from some incredible designs out of Germany, but they have a price pack that is commensurate. I wish I was wrong — because I’m still not happy with the ultra portable Eurorack mixer options these days!

Todd


On Nov 30, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Jay Schwichtenberg via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org<mailto:synth-diy at synth-diy.org>> wrote:

Unless you have some obscure needs that would be something I'd buy.
If time is money for you buy time you get all the PCBs laid out, made, stuffed and the metal work designed and done that's going to be a lot of time and effort. Then there is the question of cost, you doing a one of verses what a company that makes 100K of them a year.
Jay S.
On 11/30/2021 9:43 AM, ColinMuirDorward via Synth-diy wrote:
Who here has done or tried it?
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