[sdiy] Best chinese PCB manufacturer (cheap and fast) to ... anywhere ?

Mike Bryant mbryant at futurehorizons.com
Mon Aug 30 12:11:40 CEST 2021


Always good to support businesses who provide good work.  Not that far from me either.


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From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf Of Tom Bugs via Synth-diy
Sent: 30 August 2021 11:06
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Subject: Re: [sdiy] Best chinese PCB manufacturer (cheap and fast) to Canada and USA ?

They're called GSM Valtech - I'm not quite sure now how I came across them, but they've been very reliable for me in my quite small quantities.
Must be 10+ years now - probably a lesson in there somewhere about slow & steady work!

On 30/08/2021 10:21, Mike Bryant wrote:
> Who do you use for metalwork in the UK ?
>
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> From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf Of 
> Tom Bugs via Synth-diy
> Sent: 30 August 2021 09:42
> To: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Best chinese PCB manufacturer (cheap and fast) to Canada and USA ?
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> "
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> they now offer a "superb quality" option for guaranteed fewer 
> scratches
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> "
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> Very interesting! I still use PCB-cart for frontpanels but may have a try with JLC.
> Sourcing reliable quality pcb front-panels is hard!
> I'm often of the opinion of it-it-ain't-broke - certainly for general PCB making & assembly - PCBway has worked fine for me, prices are good, production is smooth - it works & I'm happy.
> Any nearer to home services I've investigated have seemed difficult to price up (slow quotes, too many questions!) and generally not seeming to be 'worth it' - despite a distinct approach for me believing in local sourcing for much of life. At least I have a UK based metal plant for cases etc.
> I did get PCBWay to quote up sourcing parts for a project recently & realised that I should stick with supplying all components - even if that's a bit long-winded.
>
> Tom
>
> On 29/08/2021 00:53, Chris McDowell via Synth-diy wrote:
>> agreed there, JLC continues to surprise me. I've had them call me in Texas on a Friday night to confirm some ambiguity in an assembly order! And I'm now using them for commercial eurorack front panels, too. their regular black solder mask (some kind of half matte) is more attractive and durable than PCBWay's matte black, and comes back with way fewer dings. they now offer a "superb quality" option for guaranteed fewer scratches, which I'm about to try. they also do very cheap aluminum pcbs with black solder mask too, that rivals "real" panels in quality, at 1/5 of the price and lead time. they even do through hole assembly now...
>>
>> can y'all tell I'm a fan? now if only they'd take consignment parts, or just stock qingpu jacks, I'd really be sittin' pretty.
>>
>> Chris
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>>> On Aug 28, 2021, at 5:12 PM, Mike Bryant <mbryant at futurehorizons.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not just OSHPark (who I've never used) with those mouse bites, lots of others have them too.  That's what first attracted me to JLCPCB as if I order a PCB of 100mm wide it comes back exactly 100mm wide and slides nicely into the 100mm wide slots on the brand of cases I normally use without any graunching or touching up needed.
>>>
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>>> From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of Brian Willoughby
>>> Sent: 28 August 2021 22:58
>>> To: SDIY
>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Best chinese PCB manufacturer (cheap and fast) to Canada and USA ?
>>>
>>> OSHPark has added many options, but as far as I know they *all* have those mouse bites on the edges. Their whole business model is to combine small PCB orders from multiple customers onto a single panel, and then make three panels.
>>>
>>> They've added black solder mask, and have had two-layer and four-layer for a while. Most of my orders are gold-plated ENIG, but there's no guarantee unless you specifically pay for that.
>>>
>>> I seem to recall a much higher price point where you own the whole panel, but I don't know whether that means you could get rid of the mouse bites. I'd always assumed that the price point at that level was high enough that I'd just use someone other than OSHPark.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> p.s. In a way, I'm glad that you complained about the mouse bites, because I've spent far too much time on modular prototypes, cutting and filing away those burrs. Now that you've got me thinking about it, it's probably worth a few dollars more to save myself the labor and have something guaranteed to fit. If exact size isn't an issue, then go for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 18:39, jslee wrote:
>>>> Been using Seeed for years and occasionally OSHPark.
>>>>
>>>> Seeed I have no complaints with; never had damaged boards or other 
>>>> surprises (except for my own dumbass errors, of course, which I 
>>>> have got better at avoiding)
>>>>
>>>> OSHPark seem alright also but I’ve found that PCBs from them often seem to have mousebites on the edges rather than being fully routed out, no good for a front panel. Maybe I missed a tickbox somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> When comparing OSHPark on price, remember that their PCBs are (or were when I last used them…) all at least ENIG in finish type, so a little more expensive than plain old HASL.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021, at 05:39, Jean-Pierre Desrochers wrote:
>>>>> I'm sure this topic has been talked about but here is my question:
>>>>> Anybody has and still uses a good chinese PCB manufacturer for his pcbs ?
>>>>> Cheap and fast..  delivery to Canada and USA ?
>>>>> -For very small quantity (1-5 pcbs) -Small sizes pcbs (mostly < 25 
>>>>> square inches)
>>>>>
>>>>> ??
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