[sdiy] Digital encoders missing codes in many devices - why?

Mike Bryant mbryant at futurehorizons.com
Sat Aug 21 21:59:12 CEST 2021


I don't think it was a debacle.  It was 2009 and DSI handled it very well given it was their supplier at fault.  They sent out a cleaning solution and if that didn't fix the problem they replaced all the encoders FOC.  10/10 for professional service in my eyes.


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From: Synth-diy [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org] On Behalf Of MTG
Sent: 21 August 2021 18:47
To: synth-diy at synth-diy.org
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Digital encoders missing codes in many devices - why?

What was the Dave Smith encoder debacle all about (and solution)? This was quite a while ago, I don't even remember what synth it was.

Someone in this thread also mentioned current and pull-up resistors. I think Moog had an issue around the time of the MemoryMoog or maybe the Source where the panel switches were oxidizing and getting intermittent. 
The ECO was to reduce the pullup resistor value substantially.

GB

On 8/21/2021 9:04 AM, David Riley via Synth-diy wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2021, at 09:24, cheater cheater via Synth-diy <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why does this happen? Why is it so spread out? Is this a programming 
>> issue, or a mechanical issue related to the lifetime of the encoder?
> 
> Having made these before at various different scales, I’d guess that it’s probably mechanical quadrature encoders using brushes to contact. If so, intermittent brush contact would do exactly that; a lot of decoders also don’t handle things like simultaneous transitions well.
> 
> There’s a reason ball mice used optical encoders. They last practically forever. Most brushless DC motors and other servos also use optical encoders. For some military hardware I worked with (the carrier-side instrument landing system antenna motors), we used a magnetic encoder, which I’ve not seen elsewhere.
> 
> Anyway, degrading contacts would be my guess. Either bent or dirty brushes. Does a hit of De-Ox-It help?
> 
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 
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