[sdiy] Trades?
Shawn Rakestraw
shawnrakestraw at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 01:00:25 CET 2020
It feels like to me that the point of the "pushback" is to not clog this
list with a lot of noise (extra messages) from people just selling /
trading stuff. At some point, the list would suffer and people would just
stop reading / responding to it. I am new here (referred by the great
Emilie Gillet a few months ago). I have nothing to do with the building of
the community or the list and I would never want to intrude on any
"unspoken rules". I appreciate having a slower paced method of asking
questions and getting real answers from people that know so much more than
I do. I remember someone mentioning an archive website recently. Is there a
place with posted rules / guidelines? If not, maybe there could be a
monthly reminder email that gets sent out to just restate the ground rules.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 7:45 PM ColinMuirDorward <colindorward at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I see your point, GB, but the self-improvement argument feels a little
> shallow.
> I believe SDIY is a community, and trading could be a nice way to
> strengthen community bonds.
> But I don't mind a separate list!
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 2:37 PM MTG <grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As far as I can see, this list is about self-improvement, one way or
>> another. The trading thing adds nothing to that (at least on the mailing
>> list aspect). I agree that Muffs, or Electro-Music or even Gearslutz
>> would be better.
>>
>> GB
>>
>>
>> On 10/28/2020 2:07 PM, ColinMuirDorward wrote:
>> > +1 for a separate trading at synth-diy.org <mailto:trading at synth-diy.org>
>> > list.
>> >
>> > I think the question is if there is a critical mass to sustain it. It
>> > seems a little premature to know. Could we let it live here for a
>> > moment, and see where it goes?
>> >
>> > It's also possible to try again at muffs. I posted there once before,
>> > and people reacted negatively to the idea. I feel like the attitude was
>> > more like, "why trade when I can sell it for a buck". Well...fair
>> > enough! Again, if people start chiming in with interest in a new list,
>> I
>> > think it would be a nice parallel to the conversations here.
>> >
>> > -1 for marketplace at synth-diy
>> > IMHO the inability to make financial gains directly via the SDIY
>> > community benefits the quality of its conversations.
>> >
>> > Just my 2cents.
>> >
>> > Colin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:50 PM Ben Stuyts <ben at stuyts.nl
>> > <mailto:ben at stuyts.nl>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I let this discussion go for a while to see what kind of ideas would
>> > come out of it. I like the idea of trading modules, but this list is
>> > not the correct place for it. As others have stated, it might be
>> > better to take this to AH or Muff’s. I would not object to a message
>> > with a link to interesting diy-modules for trade over there (for
>> now).
>> >
>> > Or, if there is enough interest, I can start another list here
>> > (trading@ or perhaps more general: marketplace at synth-diy,org).
>> > Members would have to subscribe separately to that list, of course.
>> > Let me know what you think.
>> >
>> > And for the record, the sporadic messages here for tempco’s fill a
>> > very specific niche for hard to get parts. That service is very
>> > useful to the list members. All correspondence following that is
>> > strictly off-list. Trading modules on the other hand would generate
>> > lots of to-and-fro messages here. It would lower the signal to noise
>> > ratio considerably.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ben (moderator)
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 28 Oct 2020, at 21:20, Phillip Gallo <philgallo at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:philgallo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well things change i guess.
>> >> The list had a norm, maybe a gentlemen's agreement which i believe
>> >> was the result of exposure to the horrid exchanges and capricious
>> >> moderation that too often occurred on the Analog Heaven (not
>> >> Analog Haven) List.
>> >> It set the standard for how the SDIY list was not going to be.
>> >>
>> >> The folks on this list seem generally considerate and the degree
>> >> of information exchanged is still a benchmark for how folks can
>> >> interchange ideas and efforts.
>> >> Once the trading starts what are the chances it won't overtake the
>> >> list. Hard to know. A companion sub-list for trading would
>> >> probably be a better idea from my POV.
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> p
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:04 PM ColinMuirDorward
>> >> <colindorward at gmail.com <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just to be clear, Ian, you are only speaking about sales,
>> >> correct? I assume there is no opposition to trades.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:01 PM Quincas Moreira
>> >> <quincas at gmail.com <mailto:quincas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I didn't know that Ian, sorry. Just out of curiosity, why
>> >> is selling discouraged? I've seen posts for Tempcos
>> >> before, and the AH list has for sale posts regularly...
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:48 PM Ian Fritz
>> >> <ijfritz at comcast.net <mailto:ijfritz at comcast.net>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely not! It's always been a rule here to forbid
>> >> comnmercial
>> >> traffic. Let's keep it that way. There's a good
>> >> subforum at Muff's for
>> >> buy/sell/trade.
>> >>
>> >> Ian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 10/28/2020 11:58 AM, Quincas Moreira wrote:
>> >> > Hey all, great initiative! I would include sales
>> >> too, as well as trades,
>> >> > in case somebody wants something and has nothing to
>> >> give in return.
>> >> > I have quite a few modules available myself, as not
>> >> everything I build
>> >> > for my channel I actually end up using. I'll make a
>> >> list and photos
>> >> > soon. Yeah, photos everyone! An abstract description
>> >> is good but seeing
>> >> > the thing is helpful as well.
>> >> > Cheers!
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 7:25 AM Jacob Watters
>> >> <jacobwatters at gmail.com <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com
>> >
>> >> > <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > This is a great idea. I have a bunch of
>> >> prototypes of a filter at
>> >> > various stages. They all have minor little
>> >> issues that will be
>> >> > worked out in the final version, but they work
>> >> well despite the
>> >> > issues. For example, I made up ten versions of
>> >> the filter with two
>> >> > different types of resonance that can be
>> >> switched with a toggle (one
>> >> > has clipping diodes and some other stuff in the
>> >> feedback path that
>> >> > changes the characteristics of the resonance).
>> >> The range is off on
>> >> > the one type of resonance (self oscillates at 9
>> >> o'clock). It works
>> >> > perfectly fine with the one resonance type, and
>> >> the other works too,
>> >> > but the range on the pot is limited.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know what I will do with all of these. I
>> >> will keep at least
>> >> > one, but that is 9 others that will just sit on
>> >> a shelf. I can't
>> >> > really sell them when they don't work the way I
>> >> intended.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would be open to trading for other people's
>> >> DIY extras or buggy
>> >> > prototypes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Please send a direct message if you are
>> >> interested. I am also in Canada.
>> >> >
>> >> > *Jacob Watters*
>> >> > JacobWatters.com <http://JacobWatters.com>
>> >> <http://jacobwatters.com/>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:36 AM ColinMuirDorward
>> >> > <colindorward at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>
>> >> <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anybody want to trade eurorack or other
>> >> self-built stuff?
>> >> > I'm not worried about dollar value, it just
>> >> seems crazy to not
>> >> > trade these things since it's only 20%
>> >> harder to build 2x as
>> >> > many modules.
>> >> > I'm open to ideas, offers, or explanations
>> >> as to why this is a
>> >> > bad idea!
>> >> > I'm in Canada, but IMO, shipping worldwide
>> >> isn't out of the
>> >> > question.
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Colin
>> >> >
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