[sdiy] Trades?

ColinMuirDorward colindorward at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 00:42:46 CET 2020


I see your point, GB, but the self-improvement argument feels a little
shallow.
I believe SDIY is a community, and trading could be a nice way to
strengthen community bonds.
But I don't mind a separate list!

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 2:37 PM MTG <grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com>
wrote:

> As far as I can see, this list is about self-improvement, one way or
> another. The trading thing adds nothing to that (at least on the mailing
> list aspect). I agree that Muffs, or Electro-Music or even Gearslutz
> would be better.
>
> GB
>
>
> On 10/28/2020 2:07 PM, ColinMuirDorward wrote:
> > +1 for a separate trading at synth-diy.org <mailto:trading at synth-diy.org>
> > list.
> >
> > I think the question is if there is a critical mass to sustain it. It
> > seems a little premature to know. Could we let it live here for a
> > moment, and see where it goes?
> >
> > It's also possible to try again at muffs. I posted there once before,
> > and people reacted negatively to the idea. I feel like the attitude was
> > more like, "why trade when I can sell it for a buck". Well...fair
> > enough! Again, if people start chiming in with interest in a new list, I
> > think it would be a nice parallel to the conversations here.
> >
> > -1 for marketplace at synth-diy
> > IMHO the inability to make financial gains directly via the SDIY
> > community benefits the quality of its conversations.
> >
> > Just my 2cents.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:50 PM Ben Stuyts <ben at stuyts.nl
> > <mailto:ben at stuyts.nl>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hello,
> >
> >     I let this discussion go for a while to see what kind of ideas would
> >     come out of it. I like the idea of trading modules, but this list is
> >     not the correct place for it. As others have stated, it might be
> >     better to take this to AH or Muff’s. I would not object to a message
> >     with a link to interesting diy-modules for trade over there (for
> now).
> >
> >     Or, if there is enough interest, I can start another list here
> >     (trading@ or perhaps more general: marketplace at synth-diy,org).
> >     Members would have to subscribe separately to that list, of course.
> >     Let me know what you think.
> >
> >     And for the record, the sporadic messages here for tempco’s fill a
> >     very specific niche for hard to get parts. That service is very
> >     useful to the list members. All correspondence following that is
> >     strictly off-list. Trading modules on the other hand would generate
> >     lots of to-and-fro messages here. It would lower the signal to noise
> >     ratio considerably.
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Ben (moderator)
> >
> >
> >>     On 28 Oct 2020, at 21:20, Phillip Gallo <philgallo at gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:philgallo at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Well things change i guess.
> >>     The list had a norm, maybe a gentlemen's agreement which i believe
> >>     was the result of exposure to the horrid exchanges and capricious
> >>     moderation that too often occurred on the Analog Heaven (not
> >>     Analog Haven) List.
> >>     It set the standard for how the SDIY list was not going to be.
> >>
> >>     The folks on this list seem generally considerate and the degree
> >>     of information exchanged is still a benchmark for how folks can
> >>     interchange ideas and efforts.
> >>     Once the trading starts what are the chances it won't overtake the
> >>     list.  Hard to know.   A companion sub-list for trading would
> >>     probably be a better idea from my POV.
> >>
> >>     regards,
> >>     p
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:04 PM ColinMuirDorward
> >>     <colindorward at gmail.com <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         Just to be clear, Ian, you are only speaking about sales,
> >>         correct? I assume there is no opposition to trades.
> >>
> >>         On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:01 PM Quincas Moreira
> >>         <quincas at gmail.com <mailto:quincas at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>             I didn't know that Ian, sorry. Just out of curiosity, why
> >>             is selling discouraged? I've seen posts for Tempcos
> >>             before, and the AH list has for sale posts regularly...
> >>
> >>             On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:48 PM Ian Fritz
> >>             <ijfritz at comcast.net <mailto:ijfritz at comcast.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Absolutely not! It's always been a rule here to forbid
> >>                 comnmercial
> >>                 traffic. Let's keep it that way. There's a good
> >>                 subforum at Muff's for
> >>                 buy/sell/trade.
> >>
> >>                 Ian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>                 On 10/28/2020 11:58 AM, Quincas Moreira wrote:
> >>                 > Hey all, great initiative! I would include sales
> >>                 too, as well as trades,
> >>                 > in case somebody wants something and has nothing to
> >>                 give in return.
> >>                 > I have quite a few modules available myself, as not
> >>                 everything I build
> >>                 > for my channel I actually end up using. I'll make a
> >>                 list and photos
> >>                 > soon. Yeah, photos everyone! An abstract description
> >>                 is good but seeing
> >>                 > the thing is helpful as well.
> >>                 > Cheers!
> >>                 >
> >>                 > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 7:25 AM Jacob Watters
> >>                 <jacobwatters at gmail.com <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com>
> >>                 > <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com
> >>                 <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>                 >
> >>                 >     This is a great idea. I have a bunch of
> >>                 prototypes of a filter at
> >>                 >     various stages. They all have minor little
> >>                 issues that will be
> >>                 >     worked out in the final version, but they work
> >>                 well despite the
> >>                 >     issues. For example, I made up ten versions of
> >>                 the filter with two
> >>                 >     different types of resonance that can be
> >>                 switched with a toggle (one
> >>                 >     has clipping diodes and some other stuff in the
> >>                 feedback path that
> >>                 >     changes the characteristics of the resonance).
> >>                 The range is off on
> >>                 >     the one type of resonance (self oscillates at 9
> >>                 o'clock). It works
> >>                 >     perfectly fine with the one resonance type, and
> >>                 the other works too,
> >>                 >     but the range on the pot is limited.
> >>                 >
> >>                 >     I don't know what I will do with all of these. I
> >>                 will keep at least
> >>                 >     one, but that is 9 others that will just sit on
> >>                 a shelf. I can't
> >>                 >     really sell them when they don't work the way I
> >>                 intended.
> >>                 >
> >>                 >     I would be open to trading for other people's
> >>                 DIY extras or buggy
> >>                 >     prototypes.
> >>                 >
> >>                 >     Please send a direct message if you are
> >>                 interested. I am also in Canada.
> >>                 >
> >>                 >     *Jacob Watters*
> >>                 > JacobWatters.com <http://JacobWatters.com>
> >>                 <http://jacobwatters.com/>
> >>                 >
> >>                 >
> >>                 >     On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:36 AM ColinMuirDorward
> >>                 >     <colindorward at gmail.com
> >>                 <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>
> >>                 <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com
> >>                 <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>                 >
> >>                 >         Does anybody want to trade eurorack or other
> >>                 self-built stuff?
> >>                 >         I'm not worried about dollar value, it just
> >>                 seems crazy to not
> >>                 >         trade these things since it's only 20%
> >>                 harder to build 2x as
> >>                 >         many modules.
> >>                 >         I'm open to ideas, offers, or explanations
> >>                 as to why this is a
> >>                 >         bad idea!
> >>                 >         I'm in Canada, but IMO, shipping worldwide
> >>                 isn't out of the
> >>                 >         question.
> >>                 >         Cheers,
> >>                 >         Colin
> >>                 >
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