[sdiy] Trades?

MTG grant at musictechnologiesgroup.com
Wed Oct 28 22:32:23 CET 2020


As far as I can see, this list is about self-improvement, one way or 
another. The trading thing adds nothing to that (at least on the mailing 
list aspect). I agree that Muffs, or Electro-Music or even Gearslutz 
would be better.

GB


On 10/28/2020 2:07 PM, ColinMuirDorward wrote:
> +1 for a separate trading at synth-diy.org <mailto:trading at synth-diy.org> 
> list.
> 
> I think the question is if there is a critical mass to sustain it. It 
> seems a little premature to know. Could we let it live here for a 
> moment, and see where it goes?
> 
> It's also possible to try again at muffs. I posted there once before, 
> and people reacted negatively to the idea. I feel like the attitude was 
> more like, "why trade when I can sell it for a buck". Well...fair 
> enough! Again, if people start chiming in with interest in a new list, I 
> think it would be a nice parallel to the conversations here.
> 
> -1 for marketplace at synth-diy
> IMHO the inability to make financial gains directly via the SDIY 
> community benefits the quality of its conversations.
> 
> Just my 2cents.
> 
> Colin
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:50 PM Ben Stuyts <ben at stuyts.nl 
> <mailto:ben at stuyts.nl>> wrote:
> 
>     Hello,
> 
>     I let this discussion go for a while to see what kind of ideas would
>     come out of it. I like the idea of trading modules, but this list is
>     not the correct place for it. As others have stated, it might be
>     better to take this to AH or Muff’s. I would not object to a message
>     with a link to interesting diy-modules for trade over there (for now).
> 
>     Or, if there is enough interest, I can start another list here
>     (trading@ or perhaps more general: marketplace at synth-diy,org).
>     Members would have to subscribe separately to that list, of course.
>     Let me know what you think.
> 
>     And for the record, the sporadic messages here for tempco’s fill a
>     very specific niche for hard to get parts. That service is very
>     useful to the list members. All correspondence following that is
>     strictly off-list. Trading modules on the other hand would generate
>     lots of to-and-fro messages here. It would lower the signal to noise
>     ratio considerably.
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Ben (moderator)
> 
> 
>>     On 28 Oct 2020, at 21:20, Phillip Gallo <philgallo at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:philgallo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Well things change i guess.
>>     The list had a norm, maybe a gentlemen's agreement which i believe
>>     was the result of exposure to the horrid exchanges and capricious
>>     moderation that too often occurred on the Analog Heaven (not
>>     Analog Haven) List.
>>     It set the standard for how the SDIY list was not going to be.
>>
>>     The folks on this list seem generally considerate and the degree
>>     of information exchanged is still a benchmark for how folks can
>>     interchange ideas and efforts.
>>     Once the trading starts what are the chances it won't overtake the
>>     list.  Hard to know.   A companion sub-list for trading would
>>     probably be a better idea from my POV.
>>
>>     regards,
>>     p
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:04 PM ColinMuirDorward
>>     <colindorward at gmail.com <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Just to be clear, Ian, you are only speaking about sales,
>>         correct? I assume there is no opposition to trades.
>>
>>         On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:01 PM Quincas Moreira
>>         <quincas at gmail.com <mailto:quincas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             I didn't know that Ian, sorry. Just out of curiosity, why
>>             is selling discouraged? I've seen posts for Tempcos
>>             before, and the AH list has for sale posts regularly...
>>
>>             On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:48 PM Ian Fritz
>>             <ijfritz at comcast.net <mailto:ijfritz at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Absolutely not! It's always been a rule here to forbid
>>                 comnmercial
>>                 traffic. Let's keep it that way. There's a good
>>                 subforum at Muff's for
>>                 buy/sell/trade.
>>
>>                 Ian
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On 10/28/2020 11:58 AM, Quincas Moreira wrote:
>>                 > Hey all, great initiative! I would include sales
>>                 too, as well as trades,
>>                 > in case somebody wants something and has nothing to
>>                 give in return.
>>                 > I have quite a few modules available myself, as not
>>                 everything I build
>>                 > for my channel I actually end up using. I'll make a
>>                 list and photos
>>                 > soon. Yeah, photos everyone! An abstract description
>>                 is good but seeing
>>                 > the thing is helpful as well.
>>                 > Cheers!
>>                 >
>>                 > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 7:25 AM Jacob Watters
>>                 <jacobwatters at gmail.com <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com>
>>                 > <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:jacobwatters at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>                 >
>>                 >     This is a great idea. I have a bunch of
>>                 prototypes of a filter at
>>                 >     various stages. They all have minor little
>>                 issues that will be
>>                 >     worked out in the final version, but they work
>>                 well despite the
>>                 >     issues. For example, I made up ten versions of
>>                 the filter with two
>>                 >     different types of resonance that can be
>>                 switched with a toggle (one
>>                 >     has clipping diodes and some other stuff in the
>>                 feedback path that
>>                 >     changes the characteristics of the resonance).
>>                 The range is off on
>>                 >     the one type of resonance (self oscillates at 9
>>                 o'clock). It works
>>                 >     perfectly fine with the one resonance type, and
>>                 the other works too,
>>                 >     but the range on the pot is limited.
>>                 >
>>                 >     I don't know what I will do with all of these. I
>>                 will keep at least
>>                 >     one, but that is 9 others that will just sit on
>>                 a shelf. I can't
>>                 >     really sell them when they don't work the way I
>>                 intended.
>>                 >
>>                 >     I would be open to trading for other people's
>>                 DIY extras or buggy
>>                 >     prototypes.
>>                 >
>>                 >     Please send a direct message if you are
>>                 interested. I am also in Canada.
>>                 >
>>                 >     *Jacob Watters*
>>                 > JacobWatters.com <http://JacobWatters.com>
>>                 <http://jacobwatters.com/>
>>                 >
>>                 >
>>                 >     On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:36 AM ColinMuirDorward
>>                 >     <colindorward at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>
>>                 <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:colindorward at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>                 >
>>                 >         Does anybody want to trade eurorack or other
>>                 self-built stuff?
>>                 >         I'm not worried about dollar value, it just
>>                 seems crazy to not
>>                 >         trade these things since it's only 20%
>>                 harder to build 2x as
>>                 >         many modules.
>>                 >         I'm open to ideas, offers, or explanations
>>                 as to why this is a
>>                 >         bad idea!
>>                 >         I'm in Canada, but IMO, shipping worldwide
>>                 isn't out of the
>>                 >         question.
>>                 >         Cheers,
>>                 >         Colin
>>                 >
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